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Should tank crews really have the big shoulder pads? I was looking at some older models, as in the ones that were based on the mkI rhino chassis and they don't have them. It certainly makes the marine look like he can actually get in and out of the hatches on the tanks and would make moving around inside one easier too.
Otherwise marine tanks would have to made bigger just so that the crew can move around and get up top. Thoughts?

the pauldrons are able to come tighter to the body in smaller spaces so the marines can move unimpeded.

weather you want them or not is your preference.

If your not doing much moving, I wouldn't mind the extra wieght, especially when your tank explodes.

Plus the tanks are heavily out of scale, so there may be more room than you think... Those pauldrons sure are huge, though..

yes, scale is definilty an issue.

the scale is about 25% too small.

a True Scale Rhino would be around the size of a Landraider.

Budgie wrote:Plus the tanks are heavily out of scale, so there may be more room than you think... Those pauldrons sure are huge, though..

I don't see the tanks as being all that much off scale. I think ten space marines could fit in a rhino if they all scrunched together, and the space marine miniatures are ridiculously proportioned in many ways.

And Tau vehicles aren't that much off scale at all!

I've always wanted to see a "truescale" Land Raider.

i do like looking at the cabin area of a rhino and a squad of ten marines, a true scale land raider would be pretty damn good.

Keep in mind that the rhino has extra room because it doesn't have an engine compartment :-).

Yeah, I always kind of chuckle at the SM hatch gunners. "Gak! I can't get down again! Oh well, my lenses make a good windshield!"

that is one problem with Rhinos. all other SM tanks have space for Engines(LRs actually have them inside and predators don't use the interior for passangers)

my guess is that the engine is in that little front compartment where the driver is assumed to sit(if the rhino was true scale there would be room)

Grey Templar wrote:that is one problem with Rhinos. all other SM tanks have space for Engines(LRs actually have them inside and predators don't use the interior for passangers)

my guess is that the engine is in that little front compartment where the driver is assumed to sit(if the rhino was true scale there would be room)

IIRC, it has four small engines, two in either track section.

wait, you're assuming that the dude poking his head out the hatch walked into the vehicle normally and then poked his head out the hatch. That and for whatever reason he'd want to go in and out of the vehicle from the pintle weapon mount.

No, no. Those marines are lowered down into the vehicle with a crane or something. At no point would the emperor ever allow a pintle weapon marine to be so cowardly as to try to hide in the vehicle rather than shooting the storm bolter. As such, they are made so that they CAN'T get into the vehicle - their only options are to stay and shoot, and to get up and out of the vehicle once it is wrecked.

I think the pauldrons are actually attached to the cupola - when the marine pops up to take a shot, couplings in his shoulders lock him snugly into his pauldrons. As soon as he takes return fire, he slaps the quick release on his harness and drops safely down into the Rhino again.

Simple.

Ailaros wrote:wait, you're assuming that the dude poking his head out the hatch walked into the vehicle normally and then poked his head out the hatch. That and for whatever reason he'd want to go in and out of the vehicle from the pintle weapon mount.

No, no. Those marines are lowered down into the vehicle with a crane or something. At no point would the emperor ever allow a pintle weapon marine to be so cowardly as to try to hide in the vehicle rather than shooting the storm bolter. As such, they are made so that they CAN'T get into the vehicle - their only options are to stay and shoot, and to get up and out of the vehicle once it is wrecked.

This image im my head had LOLing.

BluntmanDC wrote:i do like looking at the cabin area of a rhino and a squad of ten marines, a true scale land raider would be pretty damn good.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=161260

Ma55ter_fett wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:i do like looking at the cabin area of a rhino and a squad of ten marines, a true scale land raider would be pretty damn good.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=161260

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>>Should tank crews really have the big shoulder pads?

No, but they do.

Instead, they go without helmets, because their thick skulls are strong enough not to worry about being bashed against the metalwork.

It's all good in the end.

jmurph wrote:Keep in mind that the rhino has extra room because it doesn't have an engine compartment :-).

Yeah, I always kind of chuckle at the SM hatch gunners. "Gak! I can't get down again! Oh well, my lenses make a good windshield!"

They are placed in there prior battle with a crane, similar to late medieval knights beeing "mounted" onto their horse by their squires

Ontopic: I'm in the process of making some "truescale" models of marines, rhinos, landraider and all that... We'll see if GW and FW lied to us ^^ (I can already tell that the Rhino should be much bigger in comparison to the leman russ model if it was supposed to be truescale and that a imperial guard Crewman can stand upright in a leman russ ^^)

Brother Heinrich wrote:

I wasn't aware the chaos legions recruited ratlings, that marine's so small the bolter looks like a heavy bolter.

God why is there all ways a debate about pices of SM armor

the next one will likey be about the size of the cod pice

Which cities of death pice? Is that a wall section or what?

As for the debate, we know relatively little about any of the tech in the 40k universe, even less than the Imperium! This is a chance to hammer out some of the fundamentals in regards actual size and functionality.

he means crotch plate

What they don't tell you is that Rhinos are like a Tardis