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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 01:14:15
Subject: Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Are the armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons cumulative with the penalty you get caused by the strength of the weapon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 03:08:36
Subject: Re:Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Which weapon are you referring to?
Usually, the answer is yes, but I want to see to be sure. For example, if you have a S 4 gun that also has armour piercing, then you have a -2 to your save modifier
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 03:26:16
Subject: Re:Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Fresh-Faced New User
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As an example, the warpfire thrower has str 5 and save -2 in its profile. Would that make the total save a -4? I thought the -2 save was because of the str 5, but the ratling gun has str 4 and save -2 as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 03:43:01
Subject: Re:Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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I believe those numbers are the total save modifier. So both are -2 to the save of the opponent.
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2,500 - Discipline. Duty. Unyielding Will.
2,000 - He alone has the Emperor's soul in his blood.
2,500 - Order. Unity. Obedience.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 05:30:51
Subject: Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They are the total save modifier. The ratling gun has Armour Piercing so S4 + AP = -2 save modifier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 03:37:05
Subject: Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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Technically it's not really outlined anywhere.
Those numbers you're seeing (ex Save: -4 for the Jezzail team) are, however, consistent with a weapon of the given strength with the "Armor Piercing" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 04:39:47
Subject: Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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HE Bolt Thrower's multi shot operates under the same thing. It is str 4 but -2 armor. And it does not have the AP special rule. So I would say no, it isn't cumalitive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 10:07:09
Subject: Armor save penalties from Skaven range weapons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That was to avoid penalties which affected "armour piercing" weapons, like wet weather (lore of life spell), as they gnerally were "fluff" affecting the black powder, which arrows tend not to have....
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