Why is Imperial Guard looked down on?

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Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:I always saw IG as utterly hardcore. What's 10 Grey Hunters compared to 55 conscripts?

Conscripts are pathetic... seriously they will run at anything unless they have a commissar or something similar.

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Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:I always saw IG as utterly hardcore. What's 10 Grey Hunters compared to 55 conscripts?

Conscripts are pathetic... seriously they will run at anything unless they have a commissar or something similar.

I take it you've never been on the receiving end of a mass of conscripts then? Their pathetic statline is more than reinforced by the hundreds of them trying to kill you.

Only once when a Lone Wolf charged them before they could fire at anything. They took 2 casualties failed their Ld and were run down. Although the IG player only had the 1 unit of 50 so i suppose having 4+ units of 50 would do a bit more damage... still they are fun.

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IG are the normal guys in a world of super warriors.
They are like Batman to Superman.
Batman is much more epic because he doesn't have powers.
IG are heroes in every way that matters. But SM get a higher kill-count/score.

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xXSir MontyXx wrote:
Well one of the memorable moments is when the Commander Cherenkov beats 'Nids by just sending wave of wave guardsmen to die for the lulz.

haha thats why I love IG vs Tyranid fluff! they throw troops at eachother until one is dead, the thought of how much carnage both sides endure seems so epic. I cant Imagine what the frontlines are like in something like that.

I imagine they are mushy...

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Kilkrazy wrote:
Fafnir wrote:There are basically one million guardsmen for every space marine.

Oh, far more than that.

Enough that the IG could easily defeat the SMs by simply lying down and dying on top of them. The SM's power and life support would run out before they could tunnel through the colossal mountain of bodies.

If only it were possible to arrange. Nicely Grimdark, I think.

Much like that story in one of the Hunter Quatermain books about the Zulu king who ordered his troops to put out a huge bonfire by jumping into it. And they did.

Ah, yes. Great days, great days! Will we ever see their like again?

I would pay money to watch that... ahh just imagining it makes me want to make it happen somehow.

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Also the Ciaphas Cain novels are my favorite imagining of IG apart from the The First and Only novels.

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A Black Ram wrote:Sure, guard are guard. They just are bleh in general.

Now, Death Korps on the other hand..

Death Korp are born to die...
Then again so are every other guard regiment.
My favorite thing about IG is the difference in regiments in the fluff.

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xXSir MontyXx wrote:The IoM would definitely crumble without the IG. There are not enouph space marines to do what the guard do, they feel every casualty. The IG could lose thousands and probably forget to send letters home

Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt somebody have to be genetically superior to survive all it takes to be a SM? If this is the case then this is why the IoM cannot be without the IG.

Most regiments don't bother to send letters home. I think people take it as a given that as soon as you join the guard you aren't coming back.

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slushy112 wrote:I cant understand how anyone could think that space marines outnumber Imperial i mean....... come on seriously the amount of planets the imperial guard that there are is unthinkable

so theres around 1100 total of space marines in each chapter including techmarines and other varitents of space marines and thats about the same size as an Imperial Guard Regiment without taking tanks and others into consideration.

Most chapters number about 800 marines (Not inc. support and initiates) guard regiments can range from a few hundered to several thousand.

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slushy112 wrote:I thought as there is 10 company's in a chapter and averageing 100 marines per company which would equal around 1000 then you got the chapter master, psykers,Captains, Chaplains and tech marines then you got space marines like honour guard and command squads but then it depends on the chapter and wether they stick to the codex astartes as it says here: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Codex_Astartes Then you have also gotta take into consideration if some have sustained heavy loses such as crimson fists.

Most have taken losses so each company averages around 80 odd marines at best.
There are a few chapters that have over 1k marines but not many.

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Yeah which is why i said marines not 'everybody'.