Why is Imperial Guard looked down on?

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**xXSir MontyXx**

Well in the fluff they have BILLIONS of people, SM have much less. I think they can be looked down on in the fact they dont seem advanced. They are, but at first glance (except for space fleets) they look like our real world in a couple of decades.

**xXSir MontyXx**

I agree the fluff of the IG is very inteesting, but I disagree witht the bravery thing a bit. Arent the IG conscripted? I think i heard that from someone, could be wrong though. I agree for the simple fact that I would not want to fight ANY of the races in the 40k universe with a lasgun. So I doubt they voluntarily join up. IMO

**xXSir MontyXx**

O ok, I just went with my own cowardice I guess haha. I would not join up, they woulkd have to drag me to the Cadian gate!

**xXSir MontyXx**

I have enourmous respect for IG tanks, and large amounts of annoyance when they decimate my genestealers from halfway across the bored. They are awesome machines that will break the back of any army.

**xXSir MontyXx**

Thats alot of flashlights!

**xXSir MontyXx**

It pretty much started out as SM vs IG. The person asked why they were looked down upon and the obvious answer would be because SM are super cool powered armour beasts and IG are guys with flashlights. (Not my opinion I tend to lean toward the guard a bit more). Not to mention I love the fluff of 40k, and Tyranid vs IG stories sound insanely epic, thats why i like them a bit more.

Not trying to bring nids where they dont belong, just explaining my choice of IG.

**xXSir MontyXx**

Well one of the memorable moments is when the Commander Cherenkov beats 'Nids by just sending wave of wave guardsmen to die for the lulz.

haha thats why I love IG vs Tyranid fluff! they throw troops at eachother until one is dead, the thought of how much carnage both sides endure seems so epic. I cant Imagine what the frontlines are like in something like that.

**xXSir MontyXx**

Well ya, have you ever had a couple million flashlights pointing at you and a couple of friends? Me either but Id imagine its bright and probably painful

**xXSir MontyXx**

You mean this picture! http://1d4chan.org/images/f/f3/Guardsmen.jpg
Guardsman is a man, just like you, though he grew up in another culture. He has no millennia-old genetic engineering, no prophetic leader, no miracles of faith. He has his lasgun, his orders, and his fellow soldiers.
Also they have balls of steel.

Haha thats hilarious! I love the end with the inquisition guy saying we know where you live

sry bout the flashlight comments, I heard the flashlight thing the first day I started tabletop gaming. It was the first insullt I heard of any Army in 40k

**xXSir MontyXx**

You know wat? i think that is a much better term for them! thankyou!

**xXSir MontyXx**

Exactly like the spartan program from halo IMO

**xXSir MontyXx**

I'm nid player I ight be biased, but IG are the Tyranid's main food source when it comes to armies.

Very much so, (in the fluff). But on the tabletop its usually in the IG favor. Tyranid just dont have that "we have billions upon billions of claws and maws waiting to rip you apart'' advantage.

I play the Tyranid to and I love them on the tabletop and in the fluff. Sometimes though the fluff is different from the actual game itself.

Anyways though, back to the point. In the fluff there are billions and billions of Tyranid and ALOT of IG so this make ALOT of biomass.

**xXSir MontyXx**

There should be a new codex for the SM basketball chapter! Can you imagine the possibilities!

Yes! 100th post! Welcome to scuttling genestealer!

**xXSir MontyXx**

The IoM would definitely crumble without the IG. There are not enouph space marines to do what the guard do, they feel every casualty. The IG could lose thousands and probably forget to send letters home

Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt somebody have to be genetically superior to survive all it takes to be a SM? If this is the case then this is why the IoM cannot be without the IG.

**xXSir MontyXx**

Ya I would probably sign up to get off of a hive world lol

**xXSir MontyXx**

This is why they are the sword of the emperor, they are precise killing machines, while the guard are a brute force of destruction with beyond expendable men. The guard keep order and peace and hold the main line when necessary.

**xXSir MontyXx**

115th Cadian Shock Troops wrote:In some Imperial Guard battles, millions of soldiers can die in a single day and no objcetives have been acheived. Space marine players think that kind of thing is pathetic as they can capture a planet and not lose a single soldier(the whole planet thing might be an exagerration but ). I reckon the IG are the best. One of their apocolyptic tanks has a range of 180 inches. Either everything is in range or you have a really, really big table-top.

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xXSir MontyXx wrote:I agree the fluff of the IG is very inteesting, but I disagree witht the bravery thing a bit. Arent the IG conscripted? I think i heard that from someone, could be wrong though. I agree for the simple fact that I would not want to fight ANY of the races in the 40k universe with a lasgun. So I doubt they voluntarily join up. IMO

Many guardsmen are conscripted as tithes, but some volunteer (whiteshields on Cadia) and some Death Korps of Krieg volunteer as they feel ashamed about their planets past

Yes I have started reading up on the Imperial Guard sense this thread. They are quite interesting, and the battles are insane. I love Tyranid and Imperial Guard conflicts, for the fact of sheer scale and numbers.

**xXSir MontyXx**

I just dont understand how it is in question at all. The guard have billions and billions of men. THey need it for millions can die in a day. Space marines dont take many casualties at all during missions, for reasons like; power armor, bolt weapons, gene augmentation, extra organs, better personal training. Guard have their natural born grit and their lasgun.