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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

So first off this is the first time I'm building a vendetta. So for the first vendetta i assembled the entire thing, fine but the nose of the plane was very hard to assemble and I am not sure if I will be able to put the glass up, any suggestions with this?
My second question is along with the nose I have troble putting it together, which is annoyinglike the sides of it wont stay together, as you can tell I suck at building models.
And finally how do you use your stands, cause I cannot put the stand into the slot of the vendetta?

Help would be great

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6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in au
Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

Pictures help.

Put up some pics of your build and we could perhaps tell where you went/are going wrong.

I filed down my stand slightly so that the stand would fit into the slot.

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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

That sounds good


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minus the camera part

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Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





Just don't glue the glass on the ship. I don't glue mine either so I can show off the details of the cockpit.

File down the slotted pc of plastic that the stand fits into to make fit.

   
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

Flyinmiata1 wrote:
File down the slotted pc of plastic that the stand fits into to make fit.

Thats what i did and it works, but the cock pit does not work at ALL

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6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Did you attach the sides to the cockpit first, then bottom followed up with the nose?

   
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Uwually I know if your having a hard time with a GW model you can take it in and they will gladly help .

Other than that are you sure you don't having it facing the wrong way , I have seen people do this .

And if all else fails take a blow dryer to it too soften the frame a bit it might have to be slightly remolded to fit better. .

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Made in us
Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

I attached the sides to the cockpit but i kept failing

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in au
Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

What glue were you using?
How MUCH of it were you using?

Did you use rubber bands?
(Seriously, model aircraft and tank people have been using these for years to hold stuff together while the glue sets).

I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

That is not dead which can eternal lie ...

... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
 
   
Made in us
Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

The rubber bands seems like a good idea, ive been using a small amount of glue, but everytime i try it a little more glue is added

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in au
Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

What KIND of glue? You didn't answer this one. It's important because Superglue won't stick to itself very well (if at all).

It is something that has to be shown for best effect - but if you're like me, you're better off going to the zoo and getting the chimps to show you than the local GW staff (can't find their arses with both hands and a map).


I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

That is not dead which can eternal lie ...

... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
 
   
Made in us
Tunneling Trygon





If parts don't fit, figure out what isn't fitting and modify it until it does.

See what parts are hanging up on each and trim them down, etc.

I've built a pair of Vendettas, and I found them to fit pretty well, but they did need some gap filling and sanding to have clean lines. That said, I have a ton of plastic modelling experience to fall back on.

In general, though, you can't expect a kit to fit together perfectly. Even if it does, it will usually require some filling and sanding to look perfect.

If I recall the Vendetta kids have slightly confusing bitz for the cockpits. Make sure you've got everythin in the right order, in the right place, etc. Test fit things before you glue. Use plastic cement, not super glue.

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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

The wholes for the nose of the vendetta do not match up, also the cock pit does not glue together

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in us
Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver







use Elmers glue. The stuff little kids eat when no one is watching. Practice the "test fit" a couple of times first.
   
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Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

Sorry you are having a hard time Necrons

Not sure what the problem is exactly as I am not familiar with the Vendetta or its construction.
Am I correct in thinking it is a resin kit?

Sorry if I missed this but am not clear:

What glue are you using
Are you attempting to construct the cockpit tub or insert it into the fuselage halves
are you attempting to place the canopy onto the fuselage


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It's not Forge World (unless he has the oop valk from them). A Vendetta is esentialy a Valkyrie with different guns (lascannons). Really it should have just been called a Valkyrie Gunship.

As for you Necronsftw; I have 7 Valkyries. The only problem I had with the cockpit was that the actual interior with the pilot/gunner doesn't lock into place, but rather wiggles around quite a bit. If that's your problem the only real solution is jimmy it untill it fits. But most importanly of all, give us some pics and tell us what glue you're using
   
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Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

A pin up the jacksy should stop them fidgeting in the seat!
owwwwch!
The problem is if you have applied plastic cement you may need to clean the join before reapplying more cement to get a good surface for mating.
If CA has been used you will definitely need to clean off the old glue.

But Necron we can't help you unless you let us know and see what it is you are doing

someone mentioned dry fitting
This is always good practice and is an absolute must.
Mind you it never ceases to annoy how things that perfectly fit in rehearsal will positively refuse to drop into place as soon as glue is applied!

 
   
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

I have am agreeing fully. ^^^ Well what i am trying to do is glue the cock pit together. While the seats constantly refuse to stay together. Also the sides of the nose are refusing to stay onto the base.

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in gb
Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

Assuming that this is standard GW plastic:

Make sure the mating surfaces have plenty of contact
as Isaid before that may mean cleaning off with a gentle scrape of a craft knife.

I have found that using Revell Contacta cement or similar works best if I apply to both surfaces.
Apply fairly liberally with a cocktail stick and wait 10-20 seconds to soften the plastic and push together and HOLD in place for 30 secs.

Clamp with elastic bands or tools of choice for the glue to cure if necessary.
This shoild not be necessary for smaller pieces but you can use clothes pegs to hold in place, and may be worthwhile.

Don't try and put the cockpit tub into the fuselage until the glue has cured and the joins are solid.

Don't use PVA or Elmars glue.
Superglue might work but would not recommend

Take your time and don't try and build the whole thing in half an hour

ps WHAT GLUE ARE YOU USING!!!

 
   
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

Thank you for the advice I am using Super Glue Loctite Control Gel

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in gb
Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

hmmm
wouldn't be my fisrt choice tbh Necron

The initial problem could have been that you were using too much and/or there were problems with the mating surfaces having a good contact.

If the parts were constantly being moved to get a good alignment while the glue is setting there is a good chance it won't bond.
Have had that happen a load myself.
If you then add more superglue without cleaning off the old lot that failed, what happens then is you have hard bumpy surfaces which are not going to have a nice flush mating area for a good bonding.

hope that makes sense. Of course the more glue you try the worse it gets.

If it still hasn't worked my advice would be to clean off all the old super glue from any parts so you have nice clean plastic mating surfaces.
If the material is plastic get some of the styrene cements.
Sorry can't remember which brands but I think Testors do one? The liquid poly is best, usually has a metal needle like applicator.
Was gluing some GW plastic last night and I work the glue gently with a cocktail stick til the plastic starts to disclour the glue. do that on both parts and press firmly into place then leave to cure. Worked fine.

If the parts are resin then obviously a super glue is necessary.
You will still need to clean off the old glue as I said, but don't put too much on and only apply to ONE surface.

What I do is use an accelarator, and a cheap stuff to use that is nice and safe is Bicarbinate of Soda, which you probably have in the kitchen.

Get the parts in place and sprinkle the bicarb liberally over the join. when set you can excess off.
hope that all makes sense and is of help

 
   
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

Alright then, that was very helpful . So thanks, I think at sometimes I used too much glue and also the parts didn't stay together, so i was rubbing it, and adding more!

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in ca
Nasty Nob





Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I've assembled about 12 of the flyers now for my Elysians and I have to say that plastic glue is the way to go on these guys. Normally I prefer the super glue, but this model need the instant adhesion at times.

Follow the GW instructions exactly, they are well written.

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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

Is there a certain brand to recommend ?

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in gb
Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom



this is the one I use but not sure what is more readily available in the States
If you go to a hobby shop and ask for a Liquid Poly Cement with precision applicator then you will probably be okay

hopefully one of your compatriots will be able to suggest a brand.

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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

sounds complex XD

Same list, different army

6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 
   
Made in gb
Noble of the Alter Kindred




United Kingdom

Nah
write it down on a bit of paper lol

Was hoping someone on your side of the Atlantic could advise , but if you go to a shop where they sell plastic model kits they will sell the same sort of glue.
iirc Revell is available in the States, but not as much as other brands.

Ask for a Liquid Poly Cement
if it is in a bottle similar to the one in the picture you will be alright

 
   
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Lost in the Warp....

Alright next time I go some where

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