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Who would win guys and girls? not in a game sense but a full on you've got me riled and now i'm gonna snot ya! would the sons of russ triumph or would the bone white boys get the better of him? it's probably been queiried before but i wanted to see what you all thought about fisticuffs between these great rival chapters!

personally my money's on the Wolf Guard!

Nerdfest09

its called the lion and the wolf duels, each chapter sends out its best warriors (most likely deathwatch and wolfguard). the competion doesn't seem one sided, with each chapter winning some duels.

so its pretty even match up

Yeah i did think myself that it would be fairly even as they are the two (supposedly) best terminator armed fighters in the imperium, I just have a soft spot for the wolves ;-) I think they'd brawl just a bit harder than the deathwing?

nah deathwing champ only needs his fist to knock the wolf out

Hmmm Devastator your reasoning behind this ridiculous statement is?..... :-)

Wolf guard, id think, not that i like them but they seem better brawlers

well its flaw in russ geneseed aka weakness
emperor knocked russ out with FIST
sephiroth lion knocked russ out with FIST, again

see

It all makes sense!
The Wolves have an inherent weakness to fists!

Which is why the Wolf Guard will kick him in the cod piece first
Wolves fight dirty

Well i see the Deathwing as more tactical fighters so im gonna say DW.

I'm still gonna say the raw aggressiveness of the way a wolf guard would brawl would benefit a combat between the two, you can have a skilled and styalised fighter and style and if he's up against someone with slightly more random methods and teachings then if the actual levels of skill are similar in each, sometimes the methods can be a hinderance and not a help, and then I imagine the wolf guard wouldn't be shy to push his advantage and go for the head butt if ther's an opening!

Well they would probably be tied until a Black Templar came by and kicked the snot out of both of them for being a couple of panzy unbelievers.

I'd say a WolfWing since Logan Grimnar would be there and he is pretty badass.

IMO, the deathwing has determination while the wolf guard has tenacity.

Also well im sure there are certain duel rules, IIRC didn't the Lion and Russ wrestle and all for a day and night? Perhaps thats what the duel is a wrestling match. If it was anything goes the WG would win np since that's there fighting style quick and dirty, however if there are certain rules set(such as wrestling, no headbutting,low blows,etc.) then the DW will have the advantage there chapter having a more disciplined mind set and IIRC dueling experience.

wolfwing would win as DA codex made deathwing only 5 models per unit unlike 3rd ed DA codex where you could take 10

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:wolfwing would win as DA codex made deathwing only 5 models per unit unlike 3rd ed DA codex where you could take 10

Remember this is fluff wise
I guess it would depend on the scale then wouldn't it? I mean if they end up being pretty equal in the ritual duels then lets say....Logan and his full first company or WG terminators vs Belial and his full first company of DW Terminators, Let's have that both legions charge at the same time, that would be more interesting I think, in that case, although I do have a soft spot for DW, my soft spot is bigger for the Wolves, they just wouldn't give up no matter what the loses, in fact, the more they die, the stronger they get I guess, seeing the ferociousness and all.

Taking physical rules into account, DW are fearless and thus have an edge over the wolf guard. Taking fluff into account, DW specialise in fighting against all the odds and coming out on top. Fluff wise it’s probably safe to say DW terminators are probably one of most renowned terminators around and baring Chaos Cult terminators and Grey Knight terminators.

Fluff wise, the Wolf Guard are ferocious but not necessarily more ferocious than other loyalists as all codex fluff (and especially loyalist codices) tends to put their army in a good light (usually some sort of crap along the lines of being nearly invincible). There is Mark of the Wulfen but gameplay wise a wulfen loses all control/sanity and becomes unable to use weapons (but can put out a decent amount of regular CC attacks). So the only thing we really have to go on for SW is their counter attack rule USR and their Viking fluff.

In a serious battle I would have to say DW would win. I could see a Wolf Guard terminator coming out on top against a DW terminator in a one on one or small scale skirmish. Keep in mind, this is an impartial view coming from me as a Chaos player and not a SW/DA fanboy (I hate it when fanboyism clouds judgement >_> ).

That being said, if the competition was not based on physical combat but ale drinking or freaky orange hair/beards, SW would be the clear winners by far.

North American Indians hunt wolves not the otherway round, hence "DEATHWING WINS". However over the last decade GW has abandoned its North American Indian heritage with the 1st Legion 1st Company Terminators.

DA are more disciplined but SW have more numbers and are pretty damned ferocious. They would probably end up killing each other.