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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/28 19:36:34
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Powerful Irongut
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How do these come about??. I mean, are they possessed chaos cultists bound by powerful wards? Are they volunteers who allow themselves to be possessed by the Deamon for the good of the Inquisition?
Just curious really..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/28 20:15:29
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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I think it's just 'volunteers' who are 'asked' by an inquisitor and end up being a Daemonhost.
Though i think they may have to be psychic i don't know about that though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/28 22:01:20
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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It would make sence that they be psychic as it would allow for easier deamon entry. the 'operation' is performed in a massive sealed room so if it goes tits up the whole room can be filled with holy acid.
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Relictors: 1500pts
its safe to say that relictors are the greatest army a man , nay human can own.
I'm cancelling you out of shame like my subscription to White Dwarf. - Mark Corrigan: Peep Show
Avatar 720 wrote:Eau de Ulthwé - The new fragrance; by Eldrad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 02:45:07
Subject: Re:Deamonhosts...
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Deamon Hosts, in a general sense, are any creature that has been posessed by a deamonic entity.
in a more generic sense, Deamon hosts are created by radical inquisitors who belive that Chaos can be bent to serve mankind. they are generally a human, willing or unwilling, that is given to a deamon entity to posess and consume it's soul in exchange for service.
they have to be monitered carefully though, deamons tend to tire of service to mortals.
the Deamon is usually a realitivly weak deamon. somewhere between a greater deamon and the lesser deamons. a Deamon that owes no fealty to any Chaos god and has some significant power of it's own, but not enough to prevent it's self from being bound.
in general there are 2 types of deamons. those that are an extension of a greater entities will and those that are their own force. the deamons of Khorne, Slannesh, Nurgle, and Tzeench are of the former type. little self awarness as they are just a portion of their god. the latter form are independent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 09:50:31
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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A pretty good explanation (although general and generic mean the same thing, it should have been particular instead of generic, nut isn't important).
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Relictors: 1500pts
its safe to say that relictors are the greatest army a man , nay human can own.
I'm cancelling you out of shame like my subscription to White Dwarf. - Mark Corrigan: Peep Show
Avatar 720 wrote:Eau de Ulthwé - The new fragrance; by Eldrad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 10:30:12
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Have a read of Eisenhorn to have an idea what an unbound Daemonhost is like.
Daemonhosts can be tightly bound, so they are more easily controlled but less powerful. Or, they can be like Cherubael - totally unbound, fairly uncontrolled, but able to kill a warhound in one shot....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 12:04:50
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Yeah, Eisenhorn is a great example of Daemonhosting ... poor Godwyn
There was also a short story that might have been on the old site or in an WD article where an Inquisitor attempts to summon a daemonhost in his base of operations. He manages to summon and trap one but it shakes off the bonding shackles and the Inquisitor and Daemonhost get burnt to death to ensure that the Daemon doesn't escape, i've searching for it but couldn't find it.
The Exorcists chapter of Space Marines had Daemons bound to them for 12 hours before being removed by Daemonhunters.
Found what I was looking for, it's from the article Infernal Threat
++++ Pict Record Begins ++++
Image displayed sways as pict-skull avoids male figure dressed in red surgical smock [Genetor-Major Lauram Clelland] Clelland approaches a male figure strapped securely to a reclined medicae table. The restrained figure is in a high state of agitation and appears to be undergoing some form of possession. The nature of the possession is unclear but is estimated to be a higher order of warp entity. Continual chanting of the Verses of Repugnance are intoned from a source outside the pict-skull's field of vision.
[Voice - off-pict. Identified as Inquisitor Olarius]
Olarius - Quickly, man. be done with it! The entity will overcome the wards soon.
Clelland - I am proceeding as fast as is safe, Inquisitor. You of all people should know the risks inherent in creating a Daemonhost under these conditions.
Olarius - Do not presume to lecture me, Mechanicus. Just do it faster. This one is stronger than we imagined. These bindings may not be strong enough.
Clelland nods and hurries forward to administer hypo-syringe to the restrained subject. As he approaches the medicae table, the subject tears loose an arm that is darkening in coloration and grips Clelland's neck. The grip tightens, and 1.45 seconds later, the subject has broken Genetor Clelland's neck and torn his head from his shoulders. Clelland collapses, and the subject begins spasming.
Olarius - Emperor's blood! Seal the chamber! Now, damn it, now!
The subject [now positively identified as a Daemonhost] breaks free from the medicae table, and image sways as pict-skull avoids a blow from its hand, which elongates and sprouts long talons. Inquisitor Olarius and three Ecclesiarchy priests carrying books of exorcism enter shot as pict-skull is spun around. The Daemonhost's skin darkens: the musculature swells: and its face becomes bestial. The priests scream and run for chamber's exit, but find it scaled. The Daemonhost disembowels the representatives of the Ecclesiarchy in two blows before Inquisitor Olarius shoots it with a weapon classified as a psycannon.
The Daemonhost falls but rises to its feet, apparently unharmed by the close range blasts, and slashes open the Inquisitors stomach Olarius falls as the ceiling-mounted sprays engage and douse the chamber in blessed acids. Image blurs as acids cat into pict-skull then vanishes altogether as Daemonhost smashes it to the floor. Audio lasts a further 3.42 seconds, consisting of screams of Inquisitor Olarius and the Daemonhost as the acid performs its sacred duty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 15:22:10
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Gargantuan Grotesque With Gnarskin
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daemonhost--->It hosts a daemon
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The Imperium using advanced technology is like drinking Pepsi out of a Coke bottle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 17:31:01
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Loud-Voiced Agitator
Corpus Christi Texas
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A host of a daemon can be just about anyone except i would presume blanks.
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One land raider ah ah ah, two land raiders ah ah ah three land raiders ah ah ah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 17:39:49
Subject: Re:Deamonhosts...
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Powerful Irongut
Bedford UK
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I know what they are, just not how they come about-althopugh I do now thanks to Grey Templars excellent explanation-thank you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/29 22:13:53
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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I don't think there are any rules about who it could be. Who ever it is probably isn't doing it through choice. Being posessed by a daemon is one of the worst ways to die. Either they are being physically forced or the circumstances have given them no other choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 09:46:03
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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4M2A wrote:I don't think there are any rules about who it could be. Who ever it is probably isn't doing it through choice. Being posessed by a daemon is one of the worst ways to die. Either they are being physically forced or the circumstances have given them no other choice.
Yeah, I'm not sure if the posessee even dies, from the descriptions we get of possessions from like, Storm of Iron and Fulgrim, all the Daemon does is push whats left of you to a dark corner of your mind. So you're fully aware of all that the Daemon you does. I guess the best thing to happen then is for you to lose your mind or the Daemon gets banished back to the warp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 17:04:45
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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I think it's possible to survive the act of possesion but once the daemon starts warping your body you will die once it leaves you. So you see what you've become and what your doing aswell as sensing the daemon in you then it kills you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 17:08:20
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Gargantuan Grotesque With Gnarskin
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Fluff would suggest anyone is applicable to be a daemon host. Even primarchs, such as Fulgrim for example are susceptable.
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The Imperium using advanced technology is like drinking Pepsi out of a Coke bottle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 17:11:53
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Draglide12 wrote:Fluff would suggest anyone is applicable to be a daemon host. Even primarchs, such as Fulgrim for example are susceptable.
All of the primarchs were psychic in some way... at least i think they were.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 17:16:33
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Gargantuan Grotesque With Gnarskin
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I think all of the primarchs were supernatural, but not necessarily phsycic. If they were most were passive psykers, there are few or no incidents of the Primarchs actively using phsycic power.
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The Imperium using advanced technology is like drinking Pepsi out of a Coke bottle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 17:20:47
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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4M2A wrote:I think it's possible to survive the act of possesion but once the daemon starts warping your body you will die once it leaves you. So you see what you've become and what your doing aswell as sensing the daemon in you then it kills you.
Actually you would be right here!
The Exorcists like I said earlier are a decent example.
I guess it does depend on the strength of the Daemon though. If you were to be possessed by a Greater Daemon I don't think it would be easy to cast it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 17:21:25
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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All of the Primarch's were psychic, as they were all derived from the EMperor's genetic code. And as for 'few or no' incidents....uhh, Mangus? The primarch dedicated to psychic power? Horus? The primarchs used psychic ability quite a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 21:40:43
Subject: Deamonhosts...
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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I remember reading they were at least powerful enough to act as navigators for ships.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 21:55:04
Subject: Re:Deamonhosts...
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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It's possible for a person to be posessed and still being in control. Strong willed people can keep the daemon dormant.
In the end off the ravenor trilogy:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/30 22:40:41
Subject: Re:Deamonhosts...
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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4M2A wrote:It's possible for a person to be posessed and still being in control. Strong willed people can keep the daemon dormant.
In the end off the ravenor trilogy:
ahhh, but that's what the Deamon wants you to think. it lets you have dominion over it for a while, and then it takes full control and you can't do anything about it.
it also takes time for the deamon to adjust to the real world. get used to the controls
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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