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Calvinus wrote:The Kahn's Moondraken bike has fleet, so at least that one bike can fleet if nothing else. Personally, I think all bikes could fleet if they are given this ability by Shrike (in exchange for their combat tactics, of course -- a tough call). I think the FAQ is trying to say that bikes cannot use the "Run!" rule normally, where they move d6 in the shooting phase and forfeit their assault phase. If I read the rules correctly, they would still be able to gain fleet from Shrike's chapter tactics.

I read this post in the tactics section and would like to confirm it's validity.
If the above is true, then wouldnt nob bikers be able to fleet D6 given GHaz's Waaagh?

Bikes can gain Fleet, sure. It's totally useless to them since they can't run but they can gain it.

Waaggh! affects Ork infantry, something bikers aren't (they're bikes).

Having Fleet doesn't confer any benefit if the unit can't run in the first place.


Ork Bikers gain no benefit from Ghaz's Waaagh, as the Waaagh rule only affects infantry.

Khan's bike is secretly a scooter

Yea like they said, gotta be infantry to get the benefit

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:Yea like they said, gotta be infantry to get the benefit

No, you just have to be something that can run (MC, jump infantry, etc). Bikes don't benefit from fleet as they don't run.

Scott-S6 wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:Yea like they said, gotta be infantry to get the benefit

No, you just have to be something that can run (MC, jump infantry, etc). Bikes don't benefit from fleet as they don't run.

No, jd is right, you must be infantry to benefit from the Waagh movement.

There was two questions - bikes running and Ork bikes attempting to get "waagh" movement. Answers are different.

1) Bikes don't run so Fleet is useless for them.

2) Ork Waagh only affects Ork infantry.

Actually stating more then 4 words from his rules would help this conversation.

SM Codex: pg 94
"If riding Moondraken, Khan has the ability to run in the shooting phase and has the Fleet special rule"

So the codex gives him both the ability to run and the ability to use Fleet while doing so. Which is great, until he joins a bike squad; who unlike him have not been given permission to run, and also cause him to lose the Fleet ability.

It works if you keep him solitary, but a solitary IC is generally a lascannon or melta shot away from being a very dead IC.



*Note again, this only works for Khan, all other bikers are out of luck.

Bikes can't run? That's crazy! Everyone I know who owns a bike rides it....stops and pushes it....then rides it some more. Nuts!

We are talking of motorbikes; ever try to push one of those? you can only for 1-2 MPH pushing it; pretty sure models running are going significantly faster than that.

No Bikes cannot run, it is specified that they cannot on page 53 of the BRB.

Khan can run on his bike but that is because he is special.

*sniff sniff*

Hmmm...smells like sarcasm.