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Ok if I put the serpent in a unit of 4 trueborn with 2 splinter cannons and two splinter rifles, then include them in a venom. How far can they move and still shoot?

Is it cruzing 12 or just firing 6?

Six inches.

wow makes that worthless

that is actually why Sliscus, 4 truborn with all Shardcarbines in a dual Splinter Cannon is better.

First turn move venom 12", fire 12 shots total with both Splinter Cannons.

Second turn Venom move 6" fire 12 shots total with both Splinter Cannons and 12 shots with the Carbines.

4 Carbines cost the same as the 2 Cannons, and puts out the same amount of Fire @ 18" as the 2 Cannons and 2 rifles do at 12".

Kels spot on, even with the warrior craziness ... lol

Who told you I'm a Berzerker?

kill it
Burn it
Eat it
drink it
**** it

that is what I was doing but I was unsure to how the vehicles riders could fire or how fast i can move and fire with them.

The Unit was a venom with Tlink splinter cannon, 4 trueborn with cannons and the serpent

don't forget that in times of desperation (or right before a different unit charges the target), you can drive 12", disembark, and still fire. If you can be at least relatively sure to avoid retribution, this works well.

If the target you get to shoot at is expensive enough, disembark. You'll be two targets if anyone can retaliate.

As above.

Being fast or opentopped has absolutely NO difference on how far you can move and shoot while embarked.

It is always 6" unless you have a specific rule stating otherwise, which DE do not.

Timespiral: The venom never has T-L Splintercannons. When you upgrade the Splinter Rifle to a Splinter Cannon, You then have 2 Splinter Cannons.

I am not sure if you knew that, but just wrote T-L cannons as shorthand for Twin Splinter Cannons, or if you actually Thought the Venom had T-L SC.

Yea I misread my codex there damn eyes are bad.

Anyway it just seems a waist of points and an elite slot as well as a HQ. But hte reroll on drugs and the ability to deepstrike all but my parasite is still nifty.

A fairly Decent List would be Sliscus, a Succubus, 1 unit of truborne with Carbines in a transport(for Sliscus to deploy with), several units of Wyches flavored as you like(and possibly in raiders), and either Reavers or Scouges with heat lances as dedicated Anti tank.

This gives most of your army Sliscus' Drug choices, a unit of potent Poison shooters(and a method for Sliscus to actually deploy), and some fast Anti-tank units.

Whatever you do, ignore the raider deepstrike options, Raiders are too big to deepstrike reliably.