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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 21:16:35
Subject: Chaos Marine Motor Pool upgrades
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Chaos Vehicle Pool Updates
These new Vehicle options are in addition to the standard Chaos motor pool. If any points are not listed they are taken directly from C:CSM. I have created these to add flavor and diversity to our Codex so we are not just driving around in spiky rhinos. I have changes a few points around from my last versions of these tanks, added a few different options and added a Vindicator variant.
Chaos Land Raiders
Chaos Land Raider Reaper
Points cost: 210
Unit type: Vehicle (tank)
Transport Capacity: 12
Access Points: 3
BS:4 FA:14 SA:14 RA:14
Searchlight, smoke, twin-linked heavy bolters, 2 reaper auto cannons(one per side)
-May have one of the following-
Combi-flamer, Combi-melta, Combi-plasma
Havoc Launcher
Twin-linked bolter
-Options-
Dirge caster
Dozer blade
Extra armor
Daemonic Possession at 20 points*
* If demonically possessed the Land Raider may upgrade its twin-linked heavy bolters to a Malice Gun for 20 points.
Malice Gun - The Malice gun fires a blast of pure warp energy drawn from the demonic entity possessing the vehicle. This gout of pure spite and hate will rend flesh and warp armor. The malice gun fires with the following profile.
Range: Template* Strength: 6 AP: 4 Type: Heavy 1
* To fire the Malice Gun place the template so that the narrow end is within 12" of the weapon and the large end is no closer than the narrow end. The Malice gun is then treated as any other template weapon.
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During the last War for Armageddon, Chaos forces were hard pressed to fix damaged vehicles. Skull Lord Zashtul told his Dark Magos to rip out the ruined systems and give him a tank that could get him back into battle. The Dark Magos stripped the broken lascannons and power generators from the shattered machine, then he attached an armored cupola in place of one of the top hatches, knowing his lord would want as much fire power as he could get. He also welded platforms under the doors allowing troops inside to ride on them shooting at the enemy as they moved across the battle field. Soon other Cohorts of Berzerkers were doing the same to their Land Raiders.
Chaos Land Raider Armageddon
Points cost: 200
Unit type: Vehicle (tank)
Transport Capacity: 16
Access Points: 5 (one front assault ramp, two doors per side)
BS:4 FA:14 SA:14 RA:14
Searchlight, smoke, twin-linked heavy bolters*, pintel mounted Reaper Auto cannon.
-May have one of the following-
Combi-flamer
Twin-linked bolter
-Options-
Dirge caster
Dozer blade
Extra armor
Firing Platforms at 20 points for 4**
Daemonic Possession at 20 points** *
*May replace the twin linked Heavy Bolters for twin linked Heavy Flamers for free.
**Firing platforms-upgrade 4 access points to fire points, two on each side of the LR. Models may still use the platforms as access points. Chaos Marine vehicles do not count as open toped.
*** If demonically possessed the Land Raider may upgrade its twin-linked heavy bolters to a Malice Gun.
Malice Gun - The Malice gun fires a blast of pure warp energy drawn from the demonic entity possessing the vehicle. This gout of pure spite and hate will rend flesh and warp armor. The malice gun fires with the following profile.
Range: Template* Strength: 6 AP: 4 Type: Heavy 1
* To fire the Malice Gun place the template so that the narrow end is within 12" of the weapon and the large end is no closer than the narrow end. The Malice gun is then treated as any other template weapon.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chaos Predators
Over the long years many Dark Mechanicus have had to make hasty repairs and jury-rig jobs to keep some vehicles in the battlefields. Most of these designs have proven to be faulty or even hazardous to their crews. Though a few have worked and have since found their way into the arsenals of most of the Forces of Chaos.
Cleaver Pattern Predator
With massive losses during the 13th Black Crusade, many Dark Mechanius could not repair the intricate Las based systems fast enough. The Cleaver Pattern Predators were created so the vehicles could still fight with the plethora of munitions that were on hand. These Predator tanks lack the defensive gun options since many Chaos lords wanted the specialized weapons in the hands of their troopers, not wasting away bolted to some tank.
Cleaver Pattern Predator:
Vehicle (tank) 70 points
BS:4 FA:13 SA:11 RA:10, Searchlight, Smoke, Turret mounted Autocannon.
-Options-
Dirge caster
Dozer blade
Extra Armor
Deamonic Possession +20*
Heavy Plating +20**
Weapons Upgrades
May replace turret auto cannon with twin-linked Missile launcher for +35
-May add side sponsons with-
Havok Launchers for +25
Reaper autocannons for +40
Heavy Flamers for +20
* If demonically possessed the Chaos Predator may upgrade its Auto cannon to a Malice Gun for 30 points.
Malice Gun - The Malice gun fires a blast of pure warp energy drawn from the demonic entity possessing the vehicle. This gout of pure spite and hate will rend flesh and warp armor. The malice gun fires with the following profile.
Range: Template* Strength: 6 AP: 4 Type: Heavy 1
* To fire the Malice Gun place the template so that the narrow end is within 12" of the weapon and the large end is no closer than the narrow end. The Malice gun is then treated as any other template weapon.
**Heavy Plating upgrade adds 1 point of armor value to the FA of this unit
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Obliterator Possessed Predator:
Some Demonically possessed Predator tanks have intentional been infected with the Obliterator Virus. This highly unstable mutation has caused many attempts to fail. Those that have succeeded have proved to be extremely effective.
Obliterator Predator:
Vehicle (tank) 100 points
BS:4 FA:13 SA:11 RA:10, Searchlight, Smoke, Daemonic Possession*, Turret mounted Obliterator Gun** Secrets of the Dark Mechanicus **** Calling of the Warp*****
-Options-
Dozer blade
Dirge Caster
May add side sponsons with-
Obliterator assault guns +50***
Special Rules
*Deamonic Possession: ignore stunned/shaken effects, may not take Malice Gun upgrade. The Obliterator virus increases the daemons BS by 1. Tank gains the “Fast” rule.
**Obliterator Turret: This weapon mount may chose any of the weapons from the Obliterator weapons list each shooting phase.
***Obliterator Assault gun sponsons can choose each round to fire either, twin-linked meltaguns, twin-linked flamers or twin-linked plasmaguns. (Obliterator sponsons do not get heavy weapon choices).
****Secrets of the Dark Mechanicus: Limited availability. You may only take a single Obliterator Predator if your army already includes a unit of Obliterators. (one per army)
*****Calling of the Warp: The infected Daemon yearns to be free, Force Weapons are +1 strength and add +1 to rolls for penetration against the Obliterator Predator, as the daemon uses the direct connection to the warp to escape its bonds.
Obliterator Predators ignore the “Gets Hot” rule.(This has been added just for clarity)
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Chaos Vindicators
Chaos Vindicators have long been harbingers of death for foes of the Forces of Chaos. Iron Warrior cohorts have modified some of their Vindicators to a more support role than front line assault.
Chaos Vindicator "Detonator"
vehicle(tank) 125 points.
BS:4 FA:13 SA:11 RA:10 searchlight, smoke, dozer blade, hull mounted Battle cannon
-Options-
extra armor
demonic possession
dirge caster
-one of the following pintel mounted weapons-
Combi-melta
combi-plasma
havok launcher
or Reaper autocannon at +25 points
-Special Rules-
If the Chaos Vindicator "Detonator" is demonically possessed then it may also gain the Lumbering Behemoth special rule for an additional 10 points.(see C:IG for lumbering behemoth rule)
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Chaos Rhinos
During their long exile the forces of Chaos have had to rebuild and remake equipment over and over again. No longer held to the superstitious and mystical ways of the Mechanicus, the forces of Chaos have remolded the ubiquitous rhino to fit their own tastes and needs.
Chaos Rhino:
vehicle (tank) 35 points
BS: 4 FA: 11 SA: 11 RA: 10, searchlight, smoke, Twin-linked bolter
Access points: 3
Firing Points: 1
-May have one of the following-
Combi-flamer, Combi-melta, Combi-plasma
Havoc launcher
Twin linked bolter
-Options-
Daemonic Possession at 20 points
Dirge Caster
Dozer Blade
Extra Armor
Heavy Plating at 10 points*
Onslaught at 15 points**
Tormenter at 20 points ***
Desolation Carrier at 15 points****
Flattop at 10 points*****
Special Rules
Repair- Rhinos are easily repairable, if the tank has been immobilized for any reason the crew may attempt to repair it, instead of shooting. On a D6 roll of 6 the crew has made a temporary repair and the tank is no longer immobilized.
*Heavy Plating- A Rhino with Heavy Plating may add 1 point of armor to its front armor value. It may not be taken with the Onslaught upgrade.
**Onslaught - the Rhino has been redesigned with the driver and engines in back so an assault ramp may be added to the front. Passengers exiting the vehicle may assault the round they disembark. Onslaught Pattern Rhinos may upgrade their twin-linked bolter to a Flamer for free. It may not be used with the Tormenter upgrade or the Heavy Plating upgrade. Onslaught rhinos only have a single access point and no firing points.
*** Tormenter- This Rhino replaces it’s firing point and twin-linked bolter with a reaper auto cannon turret. Passenger capacity is reduced to 8.
Tormenter, 36” range S: 7 AP: 4 Heavy: 2 Linked
Tormenter Rhinos may replace their Reaper Auto Cannon with a Heavy Flamer or a Missile launcher for free.
If demonically possessed the Tormenter may replace its Reaper Auto Cannon with a Malice Gun for 30 points. This further reduces transport capacity to 6.
Malice Gun - The Malice gun fires a blast of pure warp energy drawn from the demonic entity possessing the vehicle. This gout of pure spite and hate will rend flesh and warp armor. The malice gun fires with the following profile.
Range: Template* Strength: 6 AP: 4 Type: Heavy 1
* To fire the Malice Gun place the template so that the narrow end is within 12" of the weapon and the large end is no closer than the narrow end. The Malice gun is then treated as any other template weapon.
**** Desolation Carrier -The Rhino has been consecrated with blood sacrifices, chaos runes and packed with explosives. At any point during the player’s turn, he may detonate the vehicle.
Range: 2d6 S: 5 AP: 4 Pinning.
Any Unit suffering wounds from the detonation must make a pinning test.
If a Rhino with the Desolation Carrier upgrade is struck with a penetrating shot it may explode prematurely on a roll of 6 on a D6.
*****Flattop - A Rhino based utility/ammo vehicle has been pressed into front line service. Flattops increase transport capacity to 12. Flattops gain one inch of movement. Flattops count as “Open topped”. Flattops may not add any extra weapons nor can it upgrade its twin linked bolter (due to the limited space in the crew/control cabin). Flattops may take the “Heavy Plating” upgrade, but lose the bonus movement when they do. Flattops may take the “Desolation Carrier” upgrade. If they do the chance of a premature explosion increases. The premature explosion may now happen on a roll of 5 or 6 on a D6 from any glancing or penetrating hit.
If you have any questions or comments please feel free to ask. I have done a bit of play testing on my own with all of these. I have tried to keep points cost in balance with survivability and battlefield use. I also reworked the Malice Gun. It is now just an inferno cannon with a chaos twist. I felt this was better than creating an all new weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 21:51:44
Subject: Chaos Marine Motor Pool upgrades
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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On the land raider, Reaper Autocannons are already twin linked. Since you can only re-roll once, there's no need to twin link them. Maybe just make it a twin linked autocannon, this would give you a 48" range with no other effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 22:07:32
Subject: Chaos Marine Motor Pool upgrades
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Sorry bad edit on my part. When i forst wrote this i was going for clarity. Not everyone knows reaper autocannons are twin linked. I fixed it. Actually it would change the effect dure to twin linked auto cannons would be more expensive and not C:CSM Iconic. 8-)
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 22:08:23
Subject: Chaos Marine Motor Pool upgrades
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Looks good, but I'd make the obliterator tank weapons different from the regular ones. I don't want to fire a heavy flamer or a twin-linked melta gun.
Here's what I'd make them:
Battlecannon
TL lascannon
TL plasma Cannon
TL Multi-melta
The sponsons should be:
TL Meltagun
TL Plasma Gun
Heavy Bolter
Heavy Flamer
And also:
Land Raider Executioner
Same stuff, yaddayadda
It has two twin linked plasma cannons (sponsons) and one hull mounted Plasma Megacannon:
Str 7 AP 2 Heavy3, blast (same as executioner plasma cannon)
The Plasma megacannon is a very dangerous weapon, and therefore, enemy shots made against THIS vehicle add 1 to their roll on the vehicle damage chart (Supposed to balance it, I guess)
May replace Plasma Megacannon with a:
Battlecannon for 10 points
Reaper autocannon for free
(Just in case you want the tank for the TL plasma cannons)
260 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 01:59:54
Subject: Chaos Marine Motor Pool upgrades
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Yes but then the Obi Pattern Pred would run somewhere in the 240-280 point range and that to me seems a bit much for a Pred.
You are forgeting that Chaos has limited access to Plasma weapons.
On the other hand that would make a good Vindi variant.
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 14:59:45
Subject: Re:Chaos Marine Motor Pool upgrades
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like it!
I definitely think CSM needs to be more distinct from loyal SM chapters. Especially now that they've lost most of their daemons. This is a good step in that direction and looks very well thought out.
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