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Using what units I will have at CHristmas I came up with this list.
A WAAAGH!! Without KilliKutty

HQ- Big Mek- KFF -85pnts (No longer KilliKutti )
HQ- Wazdakka-180pnts

Troops- 20 Shoota boys 2 big shoota's and a nob w/ PK, BP -170pnts
Troops- 20 Shoota boys 2 big shoota's and a nob w/ PK, BP -170pnts
Troops- 5 Warbikers-125pnts
Fast Attack - 1 Deffkoptas TL rokkits-1buzzsaw -70pnts
Fast Attack - 1 Deffkopta TL rokkits- 1buzzsaw-70onts
Fast Attack - 1 Deffkopta TL rokkits- 1buzzsaw and big bomm- 85onts
Heavy- 1 Kans w/MegaBlasta -55pnts
Heavy- 1 Kans w/MegaBlasta -55pnts
Heavy- 3 Kannons -60pnts
Elite- 5 lootas -75pnts
(1200 exactly.)

(I had 15 pnts so I threw in a bigbomm, any better ideas?)

(I made this list because it uses all the models at my disposal, I currently can not use more models, well, I will have 3 extra nobz and a warboss. If you have any ideas to correct it using the models given let me know.)

Lots wrong with this list but I'll start with the most obvious. Your boys units are worthless. 10 boys? No Nobs and PK and BP. That is orks army 101. They will run at the first sign of a battle and die just as fast. Your boys units MUST be at least 20 boys with a nob with PK and BP or 30 boys with the Nob. You have nothing to kill vehicles, literally nothing. Get some buzzsaws on those deffkoptas. You have a solid foundation you just need to fine tune and play to ork advantages. Advantage 1 is having up to 30 boys in a mob.

Do you plan to fight with your big mek? Why does he have a PK. Wasted points. Clean up the list a bit, but you definately have things to form a decent army.

I switched it up a bit. But two squads of 20 boyz with a nob has never really done better for me than spreading them thin.
In all the games I've played my opponents are familiar with priority targets. As they know better then to waste shots on squads of ten, they usually aim at my ther units. My boyz generally get shots off before they get shots returned. 4 squads shooting lets me shoot at 4 different targets. It's a risk, but it's worked for me thus far. If I get more boyz I'll put in 3 squads of 20. When I hit 1200 I do usually nob them up. I probably will drop the nobz in the trukk and go with two squads of 20 w/nobz. Still, I'm going to run this around Christmas/new year. I'll make a battler report for anyone who wants to see how bad/good it does.
Yes, the BigMek is a fluff Character of mine called, Big Mek Killikutty, he does attack. The boarding plank on the trukk is for him. I know most people wouldn't consider it a useful tactic, but he's 2 and 0 so far so he's going to stick to it until it becomes a complete waste.
Your right about buzzsawing up the deffkoptas. Agree with you big time there. I was worried about my anti-tank. But not too many tanks getting run with AV14 over where I play so I usually get away with it. Still. Just dropped a Kan and a kombi-scorcha and knocked on 2 buzzsaws just in case. I forgot to mention, I do have Ghazghkull Thraka. I might also drop 50 points and proxy Wazdakka instead of current warboss. Would that be wise?

So, let's see if I have this correct. You have the following models:

Ghazzy
KFF Mek w/PK
Warbiker Boss

5 Lootas
7 Nobz

Trukk
56 Shoota Boyz
4 Big Shoota Boyz

3 Deffkoptas
5 Warbikers

2 Killa Kans
2 Kannons

Is that about right? Okay. The good news is you can field pretty much everything. The bad news is that you've got everything allocated wrong. Everything.

Warbikers are a weird phenomenon in that they're good, but they're only good when you focus on using warbikers. Leave them out.

Ghazkull Thrakka is a cool guy, but he moves really slow and without a great way to get him across the field, he's not going to do you much good. Leave him out.

KFF Meks don't usually have the stats to get into close combat AND wait for initiative to swing, when they can be singled out in combat (and people WILL single him out). I'd take the PK off and put it on one of your Nobz.

Lootas are good.

Your Nobz should be attached to your Boyz Mobz. Kombi-Skorchas are terrible, by the way.

Boyz Mobz come in three flavors: 12 Sluggas in a Trukk, 20 Shootas in a Battlewagon, 30 Shootas on foot. Always take a Nob, the Nob always takes a PK and BP, no exceptions. In this case, field two full 30 man units of Shootas. Stick Big Shoota Boyz in there if you need to get the unit up to 30 bodies.

Deffkoptas should -always- go it alone, and even with Buzzsaws they are not always effective anti-tank since they only swing at STR7 on the charge. You're going to need backup. Strategy suggestion here; field your Koptas in reserve -unless- you are going first. If you're going first, turbo boost for your scout movement, then take your movement, move 12", fire rokkits, and then assault stationary armor on turn 1 for three automatic STR7 hits. Otherwise, hold them in reserve and outflank. The reason that Koptas should fly solo is that if they lose one model, they're at half-strength, they WILL lose their leadership since they don't have Mob Rule, and they WILL run off your table forever.

Killa Kans, in this instance, should probably be fielding KMBs for armor piercing and Terminator burning.

Kannons seem pretty cool, and I hope they work well for you. I've never tried them, but I should.

So, let's look at my suggestion:

HQ - KFF Mek - 85

Elite - Lootas x5 - 75

Troops - Boyz Mob, 28 Shootas, 1 Big Shoota, Nob w/PK, BP - 225
Troops - Boyz Mob, 28 Shootas, 1 Big Shoota, Nob w/PK, BP - 225

Fast Attack - Deffkopta w/TL Rokkits, Buzzsaw - 70
Fast Attack - Deffkopta w/TL Rokkits, Buzzsaw - 70
Fast Attack - Deffkopta w/TL Rokkits, Buzzsaw - 70

Heavy Support - Kan w/KMB - 55
Heavy Support - Kan w/KMB - 55
Heavy Support - Kannons x3 - 60

That would be 990. I guess if you were aiming for 1200, or 1250, you could convert your Warbiker Boss into Wazdakka, and field the bikers as troops, that would fill up your points pretty easily.

Or, do some serious Konversion and turn those Warbikers into Nob Bikers.

I only have th 36 boyz and 4 big shootas, maybe 3 big shootas, if I'm not lucky. I like your list though, after consideration I have appended mine to encorporate advice of others but still play to my personal strategem....wait...no, no I didn't. I'm still tinkering.

Looks like a pretty efficient use of the models you have.

Yeah, BUt I miss KilliKutty... :(

Like someone else pointed out, Big Meks should never ever ever be in close combat. They must have either a KFF or a SAG to be useful, and only the KFF is really any good. Even though the SAG is cool as hell and extremely fun to use in friendly games =) So with a Big Mek there's really only one option if you want your list to competitive - Kustom Force Field.

If you want to blow things up (occasionally yourself) you can give him a Shokk Attack Gun, but never equip them for close combat since that's a total waste of points.

I always make sure my SAG Mek has a Power Klaw just in case he teleports himself into combat.

It was pointed out to me most of you guys are probably tournament players or more competitive. I usually only play friendly games, almost got into a tournament, but had to move back to China.
I say it because I make lists that are always against suggestions and usually win with them. Also because my BigMe with the PK has owned all 3 times he was in combat, specifically, as per my Battle Report,
Battle for Daylight, Ork VS Eldar 750pnts Dawn Of War Annhilation.
He was the reason I killed every last unit, taking a Dire avenger squads remaining members out by himself.
Definately more fun than reasonable though, this I agree with. So for competitive reasons I will run the list made with the help from you dakkites, but when a friendly who gets the first kill earn a soda game arises, Killikutty and his wasted 25pnts PowerKlaw will return. Now painted and glued he needs play time.
Thanks again for advice though.

Glad to help out. Remember, have fun!

If you Big mek with SAG teleports into battle i cant see how he is effective with a PK anyways. 25pts out the window IMO

Killikutty is now 4 and 0 with his PK in fun games. Reason is, e stays in the trukk with the Boarding Plank, cuts at vehicles, (2-vehicles destroyed thus far.) Only disembarks to fight troop choices that have little-no chance of hitting/killing him, and that chalks it up to tactics. 25 points only gets wasted if it doesn't kill 25 points worth of stuff.

In my case, yeah, it's kind of destroying the point of having a KFF, so it is not competitive to field a KFF with a PK. But a SAG mek is for killing. So if you've got them, it wouldn't be a bad idea. Did you know a big Mek in Mega Armor can take 2 PK? Why is that, is it smart? No, am I going to model one eventually? Hell yes! (Has the rule-loophole been overridden?)

Yeah, Big Meks are the only model in the codex that can field two Power Klaws (and Mega-Armour, which is pretty boss).

You can turn him into a beast with Mega-Armour, Power Klaw Cyborked Body, and Attack Squig, all for 125 points, and you could field a Deff Dread as a troops choice.

The problem is that a Warboss with Mega-Armour, Cybork, and an Attack Squig costs 150, has the same number of attacks, but a higher Weapon Skill, Strength, Toughness, and Leadership, and you could field Nobz as a troop choice.

For 25 points I'd rather take the Warboss, but I'm sure there's a situation out there that a Big Mek would be preferable (then again, just modeling a guy with two Power Klaws seems worth it, amirite?).

indeed you are, indeed you are.


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Wait that Warboss only costs 125pnts. I run him, he's Runna. He's me.