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Borka Kegslayer+5
Earth Born Dire Troll -10
Dire Troll Blitzer -9
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew -1
Fell Caller Hero -3
Krielstone Bearer and Stone scribes -3
Stone Scribe Eldar -1
Trollkin Champions- 10
Trollkin Champion Hero -3

So heres the strategy Stonebearer, borka, fellcaller, stone scribe eldar, and the dire trolls hang out together in one ball with wind wall up and slowly advance with the dire troll blitzer sniping some solos
and the champs and champ hero hang with the swamp gobbers, in range of kriel stone the champs get concealment and iron flesh making them defense 17
so what you think

def 17 champs on shooting, 15 on melee. That is one nasty speedbump. it does give me the feeling of a brick, but then that is what trolls specialise in...

It looks like a list that has a few nasty possibilitys, but since I do not play with or against trolls very often I can't comment on them anymore then this...

I'd reconsider the Blitzer. If you want something to pound with, get a Mauler. If
you want something to shoot with, get a Bomber. The Blitzer doesn't have
enough oomph for me to consider using.

If you want something dead sexy...Bomber. Just make sure to activate the
Warbeast before you cast Wind Wall, otherwise a 'beast within its effect
will not be able to use its ranged attacks.

Other issues with Wind Wall: spells, spray attacks targeting other models,
blast damage.

Why is the dire blitzer so bad i mean i can get 2 shots boost both the damage and attack to kill to enemy solos i dont like and not have wasted my fury when walking up

RAT 5 should answer your question. Boosting to hit is all well and good, but I think
a good Borka list will stuff the lanes with infantry.

The other thing is that you're not extending the range with Impalers...

I ran into a Borka list with 2 Maulers, full fell blades + ua, kriel stone, slag troll, and some solo.

I was pretty concerned, he over extended himself on turn one, and I got off a early Gorten Landslide that helped greatly, otherwise I don't think I was going to be able to do much except get punched by trolls.

I would also not bother with the Blitzer. Its a fun model, but Rat 5 and always on the move are counter productive against many armies. You really want to save fury for pounding in combat, and at that point the Mauler is more effective. Borka is nasty, with the Arm boost for combat, you really want to be stuck in as then anything str 11-12 is not really doing much to him. I think the Champions work well with Borka, 2 attacks + weapon master is always nice.

yeah but borka cast mosh pit the blitzer charges knocks the opposing model down and shoots into them so rat 5 dont matter

So you're using two focus to guarantee a knockdown (1 focus to charge and 1 to
boost the attack roll). That only leaves the Blitzer with two focus for boosts
and additional attacks and those free ranged attacks are only POW 13. Don't get
me wrong, I love the model, but I still think the blitzer needs more to recommend
it.

i just like the idea of having those 2 turns while i advance to be able to snipe about 4 solos

heres the new list
Borka Kegslayer+5
Earth Born Dire Troll -10
Dire Troll mauler -9
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew -1
Fell Caller Hero -3
Krielstone Bearer and Stone scribes -3
Stone Scribe Eldar -1
Trollkin Champions- 10
Trollkin Champion Hero -3

What's the plan with the Gobber Crew? I'll admit, its 1 point that gives a nice buff. But i'm also seeing and option for 2 Dire Maulers which gives you 2 pts to play with. I'm not sure on the 2 pt models in Hordes though.

Or you could look at the option for dumping Gobbers for 2 Earthborn Trolls. Its a minor tweak, but the usage of the Gobber could really keep Borka save on turn 2, plus make the Champions SUPER annoying to put away, which would be sweat

2pt stuff is all of the human solos, Layssa Ryssyll, the Croak Hunter, min Farrow Bone Grinders.

Stone Scribe Chronicler, Whelps, Skinner, and Runebearer are available as well.

I like Pendrake when you are facing Hordes alot. Otherwise, since you have the Krielstone, maybe the SSC is a good choice.

well the idea is to Have a army that shotting is ineffective against

Stonebearer, borka, fellcaller, stone scribe eldar, and the dire trolls hang out together in one ball with wind wall up

and the champs and champ hero hang with the swamp gobbers, in range of kriel stone the champs get concealment and iron flesh making them defense 17

but i have been wanting to tryout the skinner how good is he or shuld i get 1 point to upgrade mauler to bomber


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