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With a movement of only 1, the disc of tzeentch seems almost useless if you plan to be anywhere near combat.
His flee and pursuit rolls would be dangerously low, or am I interpreting the rules wrong?

Movement of 1 also makes terrain problematic, if you somehow got stuck in some woods or something.
Are they viable for a non-sorcerer?


Edit: Another WoC question.
Regarding the magic item The Black Tongue; when it says "The owning character then takes a wound that cannot be saved by any means" do they mean the owner of The Black Tongue or the owner of the spell that was not cast?
I assume the former, but wanted to clarify.

Your movement has nothing to do with flee and pursuit rolls. The movement is a pain when you can't fly (also due to certain magic items or spells or whatever), but it's a pretty cheap flying mount, so not too shabby.

Overall, very viable.

For the second, it is the owner of the black tongue.

yes it does, for fleeing at least. Flying models fleeing use their ground movement value instead of their flying movement value according to the BRB.

Second, yes its the owner of the black tongue.

When does that matter? You are rolling 2d6 or 3d6, 2 highest... the movement value doesn't make any difference.

Personally, I enjoy the weird image of a disc rider, grounded because of the storm banner or some such, charging 1+2D6".

I've seen it happen. But that's only on charges, not flee/pursue, which was the question.

A disc wizard is very viable due to Mark of Tzeentch giving him access to the 3+ ward save against everything, and also coming with chaos armor (enchanted shield gives him a 1+ save). Other sorts of flying characters have to worry about being shot, but not this guy, he shrugs off cannonballs like a horse shrugs off horseflies, and laughs at arrows and bullets as well. He's also very very difficult to catch to kill in close combat. Nasty stuff. Don't leave home without him.

Same is true for a disc lord, with more killy and less spelly.

Discs: not just for pointy headed sorcs anymore!

Wehrkind wrote:Same is true for a disc lord, with more killy and less spelly.

Be careful with that, my disc lord sucked hard in 7th, running away from combat with most anything after whiffing. Yes the changes to ASF and the generic items mean you can build much better disc lords, but still be careful of solo-charging around. Now disc exalteds, you can't fit as much gear on but you get a lot more fighty value for the points, and your lord can hang around with the boys and offer his LD9 around

- Salvage

Good point. I like the idea of the surprise hero/lord paratrooper, shooting over the main enemy lines and either killing war machines or setting up for a rear charge the next turn. Not exactly advanced tactics, but pretty funny

Do the flyer rules say that they can only use swiftstrider while flying? Cause otherwise they get to use that for the M1 charge.

"Whether they fly or move on the ground, all flyers have swiftstride."

You can fly 10" in a charge as well, can't you?

Yes but the question was when you can't fly, for whatever reason.

Like you are in a unit of marauders say. Gotcha. Doesn't swiftstride require the entire unit to have it to use it though?

I think he's more thinking something like Storm Banner, Howling Warpgale or the bret Falcon Horn, all which restricts flyers.

Ahh good point, hadn't been aware of those other possibilities. It is a shame the Tizzy man can't just use his own MV stat; it would be kind of a funny mental image of the guy hopping off and dragging the disc, flailing and wailing, into the battle. "Dagnabbit! When I say 'Charge!' I mean 'CHARGE' ya dumb galoot!"
Actually, it still works I guess, and now I want to model Chaos Lord Yo'zemit E'zam on a disc.