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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 16:25:41
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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I've read the Dakka articles, but the Widowmaker Marksman isn't mentioned at all. Since the Solo isn't listed as an option for the Blood of Heroes theme, is it safe for me to assume that I would not be able to include it in the theme list? I've also checked the recent Mk2 Errata pdf. It just seemed strange to me that Widowmakers would be a valid choice, but the Marksman wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 16:35:04
Subject: Re:Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Wraith
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I assume that it depends on the phrasing of the theme list.
If it says "Widowmakers" instead of "Widowmaker Units", then he would be included?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 16:38:51
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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Under the "Units" column, it does say "Widowmakers". There is nothing listed under the "Solos" column, however.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 17:24:00
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Madrak Ironhide
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I'll have to check the book. I didn't include theme forces for the articles yet. Another
thing to get around to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 20:00:34
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Battleship Captain
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www.forwardkommander.com says no to Widowmaker Marksmen in eVlad's tier list.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 20:47:01
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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But it also doesn't apply the FA bonus to Iron Fang Uhlans... Not that that has anything to do with my question, of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 13:26:04
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Rules as written or from an infernal or a well thought out responce/answer will be 7000 times more reliable than citing forwardkommander as a source for an answer IMO.
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There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
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Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 13:45:15
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Madrak Ironhide
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I knew there was something I was supposed to check.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 17:15:42
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Battleship Captain
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Sanctjud wrote:Rules as written or from an infernal or a well thought out responce/answer will be 7000 times more reliable than citing forwardkommander as a source for an answer IMO.
Doh. My bad. I'm still a Warmachine noob. Sounds like forwardkommander is even less trustworthy than ArmyBuilder. I did not know - I retract my statement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:28:11
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Wraith
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I wouldn't say less trustworthy. The points there are correct as far as I can tell. That's a step up from AB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:36:17
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Death By Monkeys wrote:Sanctjud wrote:Rules as written or from an infernal or a well thought out responce/answer will be 7000 times more reliable than citing forwardkommander as a source for an answer IMO.
Doh. My bad. I'm still a Warmachine noob. Sounds like forwardkommander is even less trustworthy than ArmyBuilder. I did not know - I retract my statement.
When you have room for translation error, it's never going to be as reliable as the actual printed book/rules. It is pretty spot on with points and tier lists usually though, other than a few mistakes (which are pointed out on the blog in the comments section each time there is an update).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 21:33:00
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Madrak Ironhide
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Some are off. I learned the hard way that Amon's theme force doesn't include wracks. I even
factored it into builds I made using pen and paper, but somehow I forgot it when I was
working on the list in forwardkommander.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 18:58:16
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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^^^ I wanted so bad to run an amon theme list, but it just seems so terrible to me.
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71 pts khador - 6 war casters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/13 23:17:01
Subject: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion Theme List Question
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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I took another look at the book, and this time, I didn't make the mistake of ignoring the other theme lists. Other lists specifically state Widomakers under "Units" and Widowmaker Marksman under "Solos". Therefor, I do believe it's safe to say that eVladimir does not get to have Marksmen in his themed army.
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