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Ok Ive just recently started playing the tabletop please forgive me if its obvious but on the profile of lets say a Space Marine there A1, since in the rules they are also armed with bolt pistols and chainswords does that mean on the charge they basically always have A3 and the veteran sarg A4?(+1 from BP/CS and +1 for the charge). I only ask cause I recently played 2 games(I had space wolves which also I had thought blood claws had WS 4 which was my bad and had forgotten there A2 on the charge also my wolf Lords Saga of the warrior born, just complete noobin it ) which not surprisingly I lost and I finished reading the rules and realized I had missed alot that could have turned the tide(Poping smoke, moral checks, tank shock, etc. ) in my favor this being one of them. Any one who could help me with this thanks a bunch confused by the wording, also can you tank shock as far as you desire or only the vehicles maximum range?

The bonus from 2 CCW is normally not included, so yes - if you have a Bolt Pistol and Chainsword you have an additional attack, and if you charge you get an additional attack.

Note the normal Tactical Marines only have a bolter and bolt pistol, so they only have one attack. You have grey hunters which have bolter, bolt pistol and chainsword, so gain an additional attack in cc from 2 CCW.

You can tank shock ANY distance you like, up to the maximum you can move. If you ram however you MUST move the farthest you can.

The assault rules tell you that models make the number of attacks listed on their profile, with bonus attacks in addition to this.

So no, the attacks listed on the profile do not include bonuses unless specifically stated.

Keep in mind that come codexes (codices) have specific models that have one weapon system that would act as two in a roleplaying sense - I think I've seen it once in the Tyranid codex. At which point the unit's description in the deep explanation section tells you than the extra attack is already added on to the "A" value. But this is quite rare. Common things like a pistol or two swords are commonly considered to be added by the player as an extra A+1. Plus assault move it's +2, of course. However, if you read your model's rules in detail it will specify if otherwise. So, yes, pistol and chainsword ( or whatever ) on an initial assault is +2 for the both.

Hope that covers any other questions on that subject. Also, don't make the mistake I did and foreget to do morale checks at the end, which of course includes the "sweeping advance" and inversely the "no retreat" rule.

diesel7270 wrote:Keep in mind that come codexes (codices) have specific models that have one weapon system that would act as two in a roleplaying sense - I think I've seen it once in the Tyranid codex. At which point the unit's description in the deep explanation section tells you than the extra attack is already added on to the "A" value. But this is quite rare. Common things like a pistol or two swords are commonly considered to be added by the player as an extra A+1. Plus assault move it's +2, of course. However, if you read your model's rules in detail it will specify if otherwise. So, yes, pistol and chainsword ( or whatever ) on an initial assault is +2 for the both.

Hope that covers any other questions on that subject. Also, don't make the mistake I did and foreget to do morale checks at the end, which of course includes the "sweeping advance" and inversely the "no retreat" rule.

BA furioso Dreadnoughts do this; if they exchange a DCCW for a ranged weapon they lose an attack and their profile reads A3(4) with a description in Options telling you exactly what this means.