The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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I just hope the enemies don't take a billion hits to die this time around.

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Slarg232 wrote:Here is an AWESOME! Idea: being able to determine what Gender your spells affect.

Your this big huge Gladiator Champion, and you have a spell called Rabid Fangirls. 120 Feet, Paralyze for one second, Frenzy for sixty seconds, Females only. Walk into a town, and BOOM! mass hysteria!

Or maybe, for the more subtle approach, your female Dark Elf assassin has Black Widow's Kiss; Health Drain 5 for twenty seconds on Males, Touch Spell.

I think gender based spells would be annoying.

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Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:I miss having clothes under your armor, and separate gloves and pauldrons being their own things.
I love Morrowind so much

One thing that irks me is that chain mail and scale armour are considered light armour when it isn't, cloth, leather and hide are.

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Anvildude wrote:I think that came about from the removal of Medium Armour. Scale and Chain would have meshed into that slot beautifully.

Also, there were just so many fewer variations on things! There was Fur, Leather, Chain, Mithril, Elven and Glass for light armour, and Iron, Steel, Orkish, Ebony, Dwarven and Daedric for Heavy armour.

No Netch leather, boiled netch leather, Ordinator, cloth, bracers vs. gauntlets, silver, Duke's Guard silver, Bonemold! dreaugh, Troll Bone, Bear and Wolf furs, Adamantine, or any of that extra, fancy armour that you'd wear just because it looked cool, even if you had better stuff!

I just want:

Light Armour = Cloth, leather, hide

Heavy Armour = Chain, scale, plate

And variations of those basics (like steel plate, Nordic hide, etc). Also I want to see Dwarves.

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I hope there's several body types like fat, skinny, muscular, average, etc.

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I would be nice to see birds perched on rooftops like in real-life or rats scurrying about on the streets.

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Wow, no mention of being able to change female character's breast size what the feth is wrong with these developers!

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I hope you can have romantic relationships with NPC's, in this one. I'm annoyed that the the only ranged weapons mentioned at this moment are bows, it would nice for ranged non-magic characters to have other options like crossbows, spears, throwing axes, etc.

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Manchu wrote:Please stay on-topic.

Yes, Fable isn't great at what it does as far as I'm concerned but apparently it's good enough for its real target demographic (a lot more women, for example, in the Fable fanbase). One of those things that Fable (in)famously does, which BioWare also seems committed to, is PC-NPC romance. This was not a part of Morrowind or Oblivion (or Fallout 3) and I, for one, found that refreshing. If you want that sort of thing, Fable and Mass Effect and Dragon Age all exist -- no one is stopping you from playing those games.

My prediction is that PC-NPC relationships in Skyrim will be come off as cold and emotionless, like your interactions with most TES NPCs in the past (in contrast to your interaction with the larger world itself, which was paradoxically much more intimate). This will in turn be panned by the Fable/ME/Dragon Age lovers as an example of how stilted and awkward TES is compared to their favorite games. And they'll probably have a point.

So I think it is legitimate to be a little concerned about the incorpration of this into a game. Some people think that "more is better": sure throw this and this and this into the game; the more "choices" you have, the more "immersive" the game will be. Well, my friends, never forget that immersiion is (1) a kind of illusion and (2) not the opposite of being focused and coherent.

I don't just seems a little hard to believe that a heroic adventure wouldn't win the hearts of a few women. Plus, relationships adds a sense of realism to the game.

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Oshunai wrote:More large screenshots from Quakecon for what other species now look like:

Bosmer:

Khajiit:

Female Argonian:

The argonians look amazing (though I am slightly preturbed by its' large rack). A welcome return to a 'raptor' style look more prevalent in Morrowind

All the images are broken.

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daedalus-templarius wrote:
Hugs-for-the-Hug-God wrote:Btw, you guys should do your research on skyrim its no longer gonna be skill based...

It will be just like Oblivion, you get better with what you use, rather than applying skill points like fallout.

It's not exactly like Oblivion's system, there are some differences if I remember right.

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Slarg232 wrote:See, I don't like the Argonians, but then I've always been an Eldar Scrolls Racist S.O.B., too....

To be fair elves and humans have the better looking women.

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It would be cool if you had the option to lie your way out of crimes.

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halonachos wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:The Xbox version has quite a bit of the lighting engine and other graphical bells and whistles disabled for reasons I don't really understand.

Though it is likely that the PC version will be the same on everything but the highest spec PCs.

The 360 can't handle certain aspects of gaming graphics, in fact if you look at games like Fight Night Round 3 the boxer's tattoo will get blurry when it moves compared to the PS3 version where it stays as crisp lines. Also, for games like Halo, they look really nice but the game pixelates enemies if they're farther away in order for the game to run properly. As a system the 360 lacks certain processing power for those graphics, in fact a lot of people say that sports games look better on the PS3 compared to the 360, although the PC probably has even better graphics.

That's because you can update PC's unlike consoles (not saying one is better than the other I like them both).

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KingCracker wrote:I paid free for mine! Sure its older then my son that is in first grade, and if a video is only in high def, I cant really watch it, but shes a runner!

I knew you were cheap, but this is just shocking.

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Soladrin wrote:Just so you know, Dual wielding = max damage output but no blocking as far as I've noticed. Not that matter with my home made steel armor.

Also, crafting is in BIG TIME. You can make all types of armor and weapon now. Items like hides can be turned into leather at a tannery. Ore can be smelted into ingots etc. etc.

For an Iron helm for instance, you need 3 iron ingots and 5 leather scraps(or is it straps?) Stuff like that. Smithing perks give you acces to new materials (steel to dragon) and one perk lets you upgrade magic items.

You can sharpen weapons on grindstones, and hammer armors into better shape on workbenches to increase armor rating.

Have not tangoed with alchemy or enchanting yet.

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Is the crime system better in Skyrim, also what's leveling like?

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Soladrin wrote:
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Soladrin wrote:Just so you know, Dual wielding = max damage output but no blocking as far as I've noticed. Not that matter with my home made steel armor.

Also, crafting is in BIG TIME. You can make all types of armor and weapon now. Items like hides can be turned into leather at a tannery. Ore can be smelted into ingots etc. etc.

For an Iron helm for instance, you need 3 iron ingots and 5 leather scraps(or is it straps?) Stuff like that. Smithing perks give you acces to new materials (steel to dragon) and one perk lets you upgrade magic items.

You can sharpen weapons on grindstones, and hammer armors into better shape on workbenches to increase armor rating.

Have not tangoed with alchemy or enchanting yet.

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Just throwing this out there, if you want anything tested, leave it here, I'll check it out when I get home

Is the crime system better in Skyrim, also what's leveling like?

Crime system so far is better, if you have high rep with a town they will even ignore small offenses. Just don't kill chickens in front of people.

Leveling works kind of the same as in, you lvl up skills to gain a level. But instead of stats you just choose between increasing: magicka, health or stamina(which also adds max weight. And you get 1 perk per level. Consult your wiki for all the perks

K thanks, that's all I can think of at the moment.

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I'm going to get this for my younger brother as a Christmas gift that way I can play it too.

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If you have high enough charisma can you talk your way out of criminal punishment?

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Can you make Druid-like characters in Skyrim?

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corpsesarefun wrote:Light armour, wood elf (for command animal), conjuration (atronach summons), staff and alteration (oak flesh)?

I was thinking of basing him off of Udyr from league of Legends so like a monk/druid hybrid. Also can you customize your characters voice?

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KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?

I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Restoration

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Disappointed that Unarmed doesn't have it's own skill tree in Skyrim.

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LordofHats wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:Disappointed that Unarmed doesn't have it's own skill tree in Skyrim.

I did appreciate that there was a skill for it in the Heavy tree, but in all honest that skill should have gone as a off shoot of the single handed dual wield tree so that it could work with both light and heavy armor.

Also I think a type of magic where you could transform into wild animals would have been cool, basically druids.

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LordofHats wrote:
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LordofHats wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:Disappointed that Unarmed doesn't have it's own skill tree in Skyrim.

I did appreciate that there was a skill for it in the Heavy tree, but in all honest that skill should have gone as a off shoot of the single handed dual wield tree so that it could work with both light and heavy armor.

Also I think a type of magic where you could transform into wild animals would have been cool, basically druids.

That would be pretty sweet to. I love Elder Scrolls, but I dare saw Bethesda isn't as adventurous as they used to be. There's a lot of amazingly awesome stuff they could do in Skyrim, but they'll never be able to do everything they could do.

Maybe someone will make a mod.

I wouldn't call adding common fantasy archetypes that adventurous (monk and druids) this is the kind of thing you would expect in a company that likes reward the player with loads of options.

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LordofHats wrote:I think it's adventerous in that its something new for the series. Really, the Elder Scrolls games since Morrowind have really just been the same features transported into a new setting and streamlined to get them to work better.

I love it, but they could add more new toys. Dual Weilding was the only really big addition made to Skyrim in this respect.

I couldn't agree with you more, but unarmed was in there previous games why get rid of it in Skyrim? Also you can sort of create Bards in Skyrim just specialize in a lot of speech skills and be a jack of all trades,

although I don't think you can use instruments. Mind you I've only borrowed it from my friend for a few days and will have to wait till Christmas to play it again (got it for my brother).

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Manchu wrote:I wholeheartedly agree with Anvildude. That is my playstyle. Furthermore, it's with that playstyle that I found my caster way OTT. I slaughtered two dragons in 30 minutes last night, where approx. 26 minutes was travel time ...

I still haven't made a character that feels "right" to me. But that's how I am with every Bethesda game. I'll play a a character for 10-20 hours and then get the urge to make a new one. This happens 3-5 times before I settle down into "my" character. Anyone else like this? If so, any tips for getting there more quickly?

I agree with Anvildude as well, when I play Skyrim I try to role play my hero like a D&D character. I've recreated my guy like five times to now because I have a certain image in my head on how I want my

characters to turn out and if it isn't working out I go back to square one again.

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sebster wrote:
Anvildude wrote:Then the Third re-applies their faith in the world? What's the fourth do? Well, I suppose for that we'll just have to see what Mellissa thinks.

Maybe. It just seems that after being disappointed that Oblivion wasn't Morrowind v2.0, a lot of those fans are accepting Skyrim on it's own terms, more or less.

I mean, at first I just thought the reason I and so many others were underwhelmed by Oblivion was because it wasn't that good. Small, underwhelming towns, horrible levelling system, poor and really restricted voice acting and all that. But now it seems like loads of players aren't thinking like that, they remember Oblivion fondly and are a little underwhelmed by Skyrim.

I noticed some of those folk played Oblivion as their first Elder Scrolls game, which led me to my little pet theory.

Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls game, and I feel Skyrim is quite an improvement.

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While the PC version obviously has better graphics it's not that big of a difference between the 360 and pc version. Plus I can't afford a new computer at the moment so 360 version it is.

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Nerivant wrote:
Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:When ever I hear (read) pc gamers talk about the pc, I imagine the stereotype rich guy voice

All you guys sound the same "pc is best because its expensive and I cant enjoy games without changing them"

Well, PC's aren't expensive, and changing games to enjoy them more seems like common sense to me.

They're more expensive than consoles.