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I posted a thread earlier today highlighting some success I had with the good Dok in a boyz list giving them cybork and feel no pain. I was wondering what other Orks benefit from the Cybork upgrade. I know it's generally counter to Ork belief to spend points on our cheap cheap units. However having a 5+ invulnerable save would be greatly beneficial to many units. Take a unit of 15 lootas they will cost 75 more, cheaper then a Big Mek with KFF in their group. The Lootas would be able to take more damage stick around in the fight longer and lay down more dakka. The same goes for Nobz which I think generally run with Cybork from their Painboy, but lets also consider kommandos, tankbustas and stormboyz.

Edited to reflect 5+ sorry for the 4+ had been a long day.

Well, first off Cybork bodies is a 5+ invulnerable, not a 4+.

Lootas should be *in* cover, or behind a line of Grots/boyz; not hanging with a KFF BM(4+ cover save from real cover is better than a 5+ cover save that should be in a Vehicle).

Stormboyz and Slugga Boyz could definitely use Cyborks, but the rest can either get them via painboy(Nobz/Flash gitz), or Don't really need them(Shoota Boyz, grots, Kommandos, Tankbustas, etc). The only unit that really is worth taking them on is Mega Nobz; then need them and should get the most use out of them.

You wrote about the cybork bodies for burnas with the mad dok's feel-no-pain special rule. Pure genius. Strange I've neither thought about or read about it before. Good work. It makes the burnas into an assault group of pipe cracking mofos at initiative three on the charge.

Kommissar Kel wrote:Well, first off Cybork bodies is a 5+ invulnerable, not a 4+.

Lootas should be *in* cover, or behind a line of Grots/boyz; not hanging with a KFF BM(4+ cover save from real cover is better than a 5+ cover save that should be in a Vehicle).

The combination of the two, however, is quite stunning (BW KFF bunker w/15 lootas).

MekanobSamael wrote:

Kommissar Kel wrote:Well, first off Cybork bodies is a 5+ invulnerable, not a 4+.

Lootas should be *in* cover, or behind a line of Grots/boyz; not hanging with a KFF BM(4+ cover save from real cover is better than a 5+ cover save that should be in a Vehicle).

The combination of the two, however, is quite stunning (BW KFF bunker w/15 lootas).

I agree with this. Ive never used it personally, but Ive heard many a person say it pisses off the opponent thats for sure. And getting your opponent annoyed, is one tactic that causes them to mess up more

Personally I'd never put Lootas IN a Battlewagon. All you need is one "Shaken" or "Stunned" result and your Lootas can't do anything. They can't disembark and fire, since Deffguns are Heavy.

Tactically speaking, I'd rather the Lootas be out in cover, take some fire, and suffer some casualties and still be able to return fire than not be able to fire anything at all.

I've played too many games where the opponent manages to "Shake" or "Stun" a Battlewagon loaded with troops 3 out of the 6 turns of the game. I'd rather that the Lootas were dead by turn 4, but had fired every single turn.

On the note of units that benefit from Cybork the most:

1) MegaNobz
2) Stormboyz
3) Kommandos
4) Boyz
5) Warbikes (not Biker Nobs, plain Warbikers)