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Hi, I was reading the main rulebook, and it says that a single pistol can be used as "a close combat weapon, following the same rules as an additional hand weapon" (pg. 91). Am I right in assuming that this now means that purchasing one pistol not only gives me the shot, but also an extra attack in close combat (as it combines with my basic hand weapon)? However, the brace of pistols lists "extra attack" while the pistol itself does not, so I'm not quite sure.

Following this, if I have a pistol and a shield, and intend to turtle, that is now not possible (unless I also have a magic weapon)?

Thanks

It depends on if you have a hand weapon to go with the solitary pistol, or it is your only weapon. If you had "only" a pistol, you would count as having merely a hand weapon in hand-to-hand.

You ALWAYS have a hand weapon, even if one is not listed. Basic rules there...

If you have a special weapon, which "additional hand weapon" is, you CANNOT choose to just use the handweapon. So if you gain an extra attack you must use it, atht e cost of not using a shield.

Brace of Pistols let you know that the two together give you an extra attack, as you technically dont have 2 pistols - because y0ou can only fire one weapon per shooting phase the rules are written such that you fire one weapon "brace of pistols" whcih just happens to be the same as two pistols....

Brace of pistols is actually more like 5-6 pistols that you just go though as you fight, pirate style! Arrrr!

Nope, that was the old rules where pistols could be used in CC as S4, AP, but only for one round. You had the Dwarf pirate who then had many pistols so he got the bonus every round.

"Brace" is 2 pistols.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Nope, that was the old rules where pistols could be used in CC as S4, AP, but only for one round. You had the Dwarf pirate who then had many pistols so he got the bonus every round.

"Brace" is 2 pistols.

Pistols are still "Hand Weapons" in CC though.

nosferatu1001 wrote:You ALWAYS have a hand weapon, even if one is not listed. Basic rules there...

Unless the rules say you replace your hand weapon with a pistol. Not sure if any such artifacts still exist (most rules now state you can buy a weapon / object alongside the basic hand weapon), but there you go. That's also wherein a "brace" of pistols would come into effect for close combat: If you replaced your basic hand weapon with two pistols, you would then have two hand weapons still from the weapons. I think the only characters this can apply to, though, are those in Drog's Slayer Pirates (as I'm too lazy at the moment to run upstairs and check to see if they come with a hand weapon in addition to their festoon of pistols).

Yet, no matter what, you ALWAYS have a handweapon. If you exchange your h/w for another one you then, magically, have another one.

As I pointed out: A Brace of Pistols is ONE WEAPON. This is true because otherwise you would only be able to fire one. So, without the "additional attack" rule you would only get to make one attack.

So no, "brace of pistols" is a) NOT a hand weapon and b) only a SINGLE weapon. Hence why, when you use a brace of pistols, you are technically using a handweapon AND a brace of pistols....

The thing about using a pistol in CC is usually not by firing it (except perhaps in the first round if you didn't already fire it at someone.) in which case you flip it aroound and use it like a club, driving the handle into some faces. all models are considered to have a hand weapon, so if you had a brace of pistols you could use 2 like clubs or use a sword and one or whatever.

instead of the 'fire in first round' we have stand and shoot, no?

It counts as a hand weapon.

YOU HAVE A HAND WEAPON, BASE, AS POINTED OUT.

now, you have an extra hand weapon

no parry, but an extra attack.

there really isn't a point in having a 'brace of pistols' other then for two shots.

Yes. That is true. Of course, I can't think of any examples where you can choose between one pistol or a brace...

...and, if you wanted to, you could invert your statement, "there really isn't a point in having a 'pistol', since it only has one shot."