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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 15:41:55
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Continuing Valkyries "C:Grots ideas" I have come up with 'Eavy Arma Grots Grots being scavangers at nature pick up the most odd and shiney bits from their downed foes. Often times this may be armor, or a trinket found on the battlefield. Regardless, the grots spend many weeks in the workshop, building themselves gadgets and doodads from the random bits collected. Grots can be seen wearing these into battle, however, they are not strong enough to bear the metals properly, and often stutter, not being capable of moving... This armor however, being a conglomorate mess, has proved to save grots on several occasions. Recent reports have them huddling into large circles, slowly moving forward into range of their foes, attacking them with their own scavanged weaponry, often times with an extraordianry fire rate. Much to the horror of their opponent, when a living carpet of metal knocks them over... and slits their throat... 'Eavy Arma Grots: Elites ...10 Pts Base. Size: 10-30 Unit Type: Infantry WS:2 BS:3 S:2(3) T:2 W:1 I:2 A:1(2) Ld:7 Sv:4+ Wargear: Grot Slicas, Grot Rattatat,'Eavy Arma Special Rules: Slow But Purposeful, Mob Rule, Surprise!!!, Death AND Glory Surprise!!!: Grots often incorporate bombs and explosives into their comrades armor, as they want theirs to be the best, and often do so by any means... At any point during each player's Assault Phase, the Grot player nominates a single grot model and may roll a d6 and apply the following: 1: Dud- The bomb does not go off, rather just sparks and fizzes 2: Kathump- The bomb backfires, killing the nominated grot 3-5: BOOM!- The bomb goes off in a minor explosion, place a small blast template over the nominated grot, all units caught under it suffer a S3 AP- hit 6: BADABOOOOOM!- The rigged bomb explodes in a fierce fireball, vaporizing those in the immediate vacinity, place a large blast template over the nominated grot, all units under the template suffer a S4 AP4 Hit, open-topped vehicles suffer a glance Death AND Glory: The bombs included within the Grot's armor are often times triggered under extreme stress, if a Grot mob is Tank Shocked, D3 Grot's are removed as they are caught under the treads, casuing a single Melta Bomb hit on the vehicle. Grot Slicas- Sharpened bits and pieces scavenged from prior battles, are more or less perfect for the grots to wield, and confer a +1 to Strength as included in the grot's profile. Grot Rattatats- Guns forged by Grots, pump out a ridicoulous amount of extremely loud rounds, much to the joy of the Grot. These are given to 'Eavy Arma Grots, and have the following profile: Range Strength AP Type 12" 3 6 Pistol, Pinning "Mega Arma'd Grot"- Confers a Armor 2+ Save to the grot due to ramshackled mass of metal surrounding it. Even when hit, odds are the weapon just blew off a mass of metal which served no purpose. Options: One Grot may become a "Mega Arma'd Grot"...15 Pts. The "Mega Arma'd Grot" may then take ONE of the following replace its Slica and Rattatat: A Scorcha...10 Pts. A twin-linked Big Shoota...20 Pts. A Power Klaw...10 Pts. A Kustom Mega Blasta...30 Pts. Questions? Comments? Concerns? Please help, Thank You
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This message was edited 7 times. Last update was at 2010/12/28 23:05:10
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 15:55:48
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Fresh-Faced New User
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thats great!
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3000 poyentzes speihzess mehreenzes
new guy in 40k (one year of assembling,making,but i ne
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 16:02:56
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Really? You don't think they're under/overcosted?
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 16:08:29
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Just the right amount of points! Ill be sure to add this unit into the big collection of club made units. Just need one for chaos.............
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 16:10:33
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Thank you! Any negative responses though? I want to know what to fix, or if anyone wants to playtest them...
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 16:17:16
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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They sound like fun. Well designed to cause havoc and frighten cautious opponents, rather than form a reliable part of the strategy; this is exactly how grots in armour should be. Area denial and objective hogging. The slow and purposeful rule also keeps them in check.
I think 10pts is a fair price; certainly not under-costed, considering that 10pts will get you an ork 'ard boy with a shoota.
The only comment is that auto-glancing a vehicle is possibly a bit too powerful for the self-destructing grots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 16:18:49
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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It only glances open-topped vehicles, due to the fact that the pilots could be engulfed in the fire/explosion due to their exposure... Think, Sentinel for this...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/18 16:19:24
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 18:47:45
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Lord of the Fleet
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Great work!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 19:07:43
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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You like it?
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 19:14:34
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Lord of the Fleet
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Nah I don't like it, I love it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/18 19:34:45
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Would you guys play against them if someone wanted to? Anyway, Grot Psykers up next!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/12/18 19:37:47
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/19 14:43:33
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I think I'd play against them. I'd also think about fielding a small unit for objective grabbing. I wouldn't risk a big mob, though, as a canny opponent would keep their distance and whittle them down with shooting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 09:48:11
Subject: Re:'Eavy Arma Grots
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Nasty Nob
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You really need to make a Mega Arma'd Grot. Would look so fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/22 00:40:09
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I already put that in the entry, as a leader upgrade... I guess I could make Mega Arma'd Grots a whole seperate section unit selection... Then again, that would make them even more similar to the big mean "older brother" orks...
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 10:37:50
Subject: Re:'Eavy Arma Grots
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like the mega-armoured grots, but a) orks would get priority over thier best armour, b) how would they fit?
my suggestion?
make it a completely different choice, with 3+ Sv.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 11:29:56
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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The grots simply throw on bits and pieces of metal held together in shambles. Odds are, when you fire, you blew off something that served no purpose.
And to A, this is C:Grots, being a sub-division of the species, that escaped their big-"bretheren"
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 11:42:18
Subject: Re:'Eavy Arma Grots
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Fixture of Dakka
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ah. PA grots are still a better bet than TDA grots IMHO.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/26 09:24:41
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Guarding Guardian
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Mega armored Grot + Powerclaw...... strength 4. That's hilarious. I would love to see this unit.
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New Daemon player who likes blocks of infantry more than is healthy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 18:16:31
Subject: Re:'Eavy Arma Grots
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Fixture of Dakka
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When I think Eavy Arma Grots I think SM Scout equivalents ... not so much in statline but as far as options go. I'm thinking you should have similar weapons choices. Grot + Sniper rifle = awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 18:39:12
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Thats what the Snipa Teams are for silly!
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 22:11:31
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oreo_Golem wrote:Mega armored Grot + Powerclaw...... strength 4. That's hilarious. I would love to see this unit.
no...grot + slica.....strength 4.
grot + powerclaw.....strength 6.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 15:00:42
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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shrike wrote:Oreo_Golem wrote:Mega armored Grot + Powerclaw...... strength 4. That's hilarious. I would love to see this unit.
no...grot + slica.....strength 4. grot + powerclaw.....strength 6. 
grots are s2 and claw replaces slica.... also chuck norris
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 17:42:41
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Fixture of Dakka
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Devastator wrote:shrike wrote:Oreo_Golem wrote:Mega armored Grot + Powerclaw...... strength 4. That's hilarious. I would love to see this unit.
no...grot + slica.....strength 4. grot + powerclaw.....strength 6. 
grots are s2 and claw replaces slica.... also chuck norris a) he's updated it, and when I posted it said S3, +1S with slica (S4) or x2S with PK (S6).  b)  - look at my sig. SHUT UP ABOUT IT. Do you have nothing better to do with your time other than  me off by posting stuff about a dead thread in which I experienced technical difficulties and could not post pics of a certain model? Stop flaming and get a life. [/rant].
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/29 17:43:26
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 18:28:03
Subject: 'Eavy Arma Grots
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I made it clearer, and yes I did update it. The way I had it placed made it unclear, as exhibited between the two of you. Neither of you were wrong to interpret it either way, but now that I have refined it, the Grots get a S4 Power Klaw.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/29 19:45:30
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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