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Made in ca
Member of the Malleus






I run a BA mixed Razorback list with a 3 unit MM attack bike squad. They are consistently proving to be MVPs, taking down the raiders and harassing MCs. This is central to my play style as I usually focus on removing large threats and moving on objectives turn 4-5 with assault troops.

Now 3 is fine and dandy, I was wondering if anyone has seen 6 fielded (lets say at 1500) or 9 (at 2000) and been used to good effect. Not that I think they are the best choice, but I think fielding them vs the Baal will give my lists a little more flavour then the standard Mech. Also if I field at least 6 I think I could justify putting a priest on a bike to give them the FNP bubble and FC if they need to get stuck in a turn to avoid being shot.

Thoughts?

Outline of what will be working with test bikes
2 Razors - HF
2 Razors - Assault cannons
2 Razors - TL las
(I dislike the mass LC,Plas people are running for some reason)
2 lib dreads
Priests
RAS squads for the razorbacks, usually with PW + Meltagun
Lib HQ - SoS, UR



This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2010/12/21 03:56:45


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Daemonic Dreadnought






3 MM in an attack bike squad might be a bit much. A triple MM hit against a vehicle will probably=3 pens. A triple melta pen against a vehicle will often result in overkill, and while overkill is fun it's unnecessary. Not paying points for the unnecessary is the fastest way to trim points off an army.

I think 6 MM attack bikes in 3 squads will work almost as well for 2/3 the price.

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Made in ca
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Thats true (and I got 3 rights now so another 3 and test seems like a prudent idea).

The major concern I have, which is addressed is that loosing a unit at 3 and at 2 results in a moral check. At 8 ld and on a bike this can be a issue.


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Daemonic Dreadnought






hazal wrote:Thats true (and I got 3 rights now so another 3 and test seems like a prudent idea).

The major concern I have, which is addressed is that loosing a unit at 3 and at 2 results in a moral check. At 8 ld and on a bike this can be a issue.



25% is a morale test so in a 3 bike squad the loss of 1/3 is 33% and a morale test. The extra bike won't help at all for morale. If you're worried about morale buy a banner for a unit of honor guard to give the bikes a reroll, besides Honor Guard are a good unit in any BA list.

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Made in ca
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Yea I was in agreement on that (horrid wording on my part), 3 squads of 2 seem to be my next step.

The HG is a nice unit, I run mine as a jack of all trades BC, 1 melta, 1 flamer, 1 plain... and priest since I usually run 2 lib dreads.

But if I was going to take them for the banner I would rather take a sane Tycho. He is a good package at that point value, 75 points over a captain for arty armor, combi melta with sterngaurd ammo and his striking chain fist.

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I've seen squads of 1 MM attack bikes and a HB attack bike work well. It's a little cheaper and can threaten more targets.
   
Made in ca
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The problem with the HB, is that in a BA list like mine I have alot of anti infantry in the form of Heavy flamers, exceptional CC troops, dreads and assault cannons to a degree.

The MM shore up my biggest weakpoint which is opposing armor and MCs which laugh at my psycho marines when they charge.

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Jervis Johnson






I was wondering if anyone has seen 6 fielded (lets say at 1500) or 9 (at 2000) and been used to good effect.


I think this did reasonably well at the ETC 2010:

HQ1: Librarian(100) with jump pack(25), fear of darkness(0), unleash rage(0) [125]

HQ2: Librarian(100) with jump pack(25), fear of darkness(0), unleash rage(0) [125]

Elite1: Sanguinary priest(50) with jump pack(25) [75]
Elite2: Sanguinary priest(50) with jump pack(25) [75]

Troop1: Assault squad, 9 assault marines (172) with meltagun(10) and powerfist(25) [207]
Troop2: Assault squad, 9 assault marines (172) with meltagun(10) and powerfist(25) [207]
Troop3: Assault squad, 9 assault marines (172) with meltagun(10) and thunderhammer(30) [212]

FA1: Atack bike squad, 3 atack bikes(3x40=120) with 3 multi-meltas(3x10=30) [150]
FA2: Atack bike squad, 3 atack bikes(3x40=120) with 3 multi-meltas(3x10=30) [150]
FA3: Atack bike squad, 3 atack bikes(3x40=120) with 3 multi-meltas(3x10=30) [150]

HS1: Predator(70) with lascannons sponsons(65) and searchlight(1) [136]
HS2: Predator(70) with lascannons sponsons(65) and searchlight(1) [136]

Total [1748pts]

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