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Hello, I was just wondering, in the tyranid faq it says that all tyranid special weapon affects stack;

"Do Tyranid models combine the effects of multiple
Tyranid Close Combat weapons in an assault? For
example, if I have model that has both Scything Talons
and Rending Claws, do I re-roll results of 1 To Hit and
still have the Rending special rule.
A: Yes."- pg 1 of the tyranids FAQ
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1490299a_FAQ_Tyranids_2010.pdf

So, tyranid warriors can get 2 sets of rending claws, would this make them them have 2d3 extra armor pen, or would a 6 to wound cause 2 wounds? Or is their no reason to give them two sets of rending claws?

There is no reason to give them 2 sets.

Rending Claws grant the rending rule to the model that has them, two sets wuld then grant the rule twice, but it can only be used once(i.e. it does what it says it does, add d3 or auto wound).

hmm... but for armor AP it says an extra d3, so having the rending rule twice would grand you an extra d3 plus an extra d3, woulden't it since it stacks?

You're assuming that you can have the Rending rule twice. You either have the Rending rule or you don't.

Reading the FAQ pointedly, the FAQ says " combine the effects of multiple
Tyranid Close Combat weapons in an assault", im just trying to beat that arugment becouse ive had this argued to me, i don't think it would make much sense but a few other nid players have argued otherwise.

Brood Lord wrote:Reading the FAQ pointedly, the FAQ says " combine the effects of multiple
Tyranid Close Combat weapons in an assault", im just trying to beat that arugment becouse ive had this argued to me, i don't think it would make much sense but a few other nid players have argued otherwise.

Yes you get to combine the effects of every CC weapon a Tyranid is carrying but what you don't seem to be understanding is that the only thing rending claws do is to provide the rending special ability to the model's attacks. So no matter how many rending claws you have you still just have rending attacks, which get D3 bonus penetration on a penetration roll of '6'.

To put it a little bit clearer: The tyranid codex/FAQ states that all models with wargear gain the benefits of such and that said benefits are cumulative and whatnot. However, there is nothing in the BRB that states that having multiple copies of a USR allows that USR to apply more than once. Therefore the additional copy of 'rending' you gain from the extra claws is a redundant ability. Now if you had some way of ripping off a set of tyranid arms like a weapon destroyed result on a vehicle, having a spare set might make sense. Otherwise, just give them scything talons so you get more chances to rend with the claws.

thanks, I'll try and convince my friend with this new info.


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... does it say that you can only have/apply a rule once, just out of curiosity.

Brood Lord wrote:thanks, I'll try and convince my friend with this new info.


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... does it say that you can only have/apply a rule once, just out of curiosity.

No, it doesn't say that you can only have/apply a rule once. But again, regardless of how many rending claws you have all they do is to give the model the rending ability. Having the rending ability twice, three times, or a hundred times changes absolutely nothing in that it just gives the model's attacks the rending ability.

Listen to yak face hes da boss

Ok, kinda funny that you can give a tyranid warrior 2 sets of rending claws, for no reason, but hey I'd do it just for laughs