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Anyone think, know, or hear if GW will put out a completely new army?

There are no current rumours or official information about a new army for 40K. Confirmed up-and-coming are new releases for Skaven, Blood Angels, Orcs and Goblins and Dark Eldar.

GW has too much on it's plate to release new armies. Ever since the stand alone codexes for the various SM chapters, they've basically filled their entire 5th edition Codex quota and then some. They need to fix the remaining 3rd and 4th edition codexes before they can even think about new armies.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:GW has too much on it's plate to release new armies. Ever since the stand alone codexes for the various SM chapters, they've basically filled their entire 5th edition Codex quota and then some. They need to fix the remaining 3rd and 4th edition codexes before they can even think about new armies.

This.

GW needs to update the codexs in need of updating before releasing new armies....if Dark Eldar can get an update, anyone can.

ahhh gotya, wishful thinking i guess lol

Ask yourself, what new concepts could they add?

As others have said, with having *SEVEN* different Space Marine books (Space Marines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Black Templars, Grey Knights and Chaos Space Marines) out of the 16 armies in the game (and one, Necrons, having many similarly stat'd units) there's little room for anything else. If GW manned the **** up and amalgamated some of those disparate SM books (which wouldn't be hard if they stopped going out of their way coming up with crazy stuff to give them just to justify having their own books) then there might be room for new armies in the release pipeline. As is, they can't ensure they all get an update every edition (barely every other)and introducing a totally new army would mean stretching that out even more.

It wouldn't be hard to come up with new army concepts (e.g. something designed around unit synergy and tethering, basic troops would be rather poor on their own, but gain bonuses and benefits whenever within 12" of other types of units, like maybe start with a guardsmen statline and then if within 12" of say X,Y Z and W units at the same time they end up with stats line Plague Marines) but GW has seen fit to continue making Space Marines half the game.

DA, as of now, are a codex chapter. SW, BA, and BT are the only three chapters who need their own book. Greyknights are different, and the chaos book needs to become chaos legions. But GW really as all their bases covered in terms of play-styles.

I would venture a guess and say that we'll see the Adeptus Mechanicus rise up in the form of thier own codex in a couple of years, I've heard many people screaming for an actual Mechanicus army for awile now.

The forgotten dwarfs will rise and invade the evil Imperium for all those centuries of slavery. Chaos will assist them....

Sure, there are other factions to explore, but what kind of play style could they bring that isnt already done with another army.

Everyone has great points, so maybe instead of coming up with completely new forms of the 40k game, maybe just a new army to have some new models? A completely new army to put together, paint design? It would be fun looking t it from the modeling aspect of the hobby really. Now would GW want to waste their time on something like that? Probably not lol

I'm still holding out for Wood Eldar.

C'mon, GW, complete the set!

Dear Games Workshop

Please stick all space marine chapters in one book. Do it. That is all

merry christmas

Wood Eldar are called Exodites in 40K, and haven't been seen since 2nd edition.

We can realistically expect an Iron Hands codex, another Lost And Damned codex, possibly a Mechanicus Codex, but I doubt we will see anything further of the nonhumans. No Squats and/or Demiurg, no Space Skaven, just more human variants. People (meaning customers) relate more to humans.

When I build my new Wych Cult Dark Eldar, I am using Skaven for my base models. I don't need any stinkin' new codex...

They said they won't until every other army gets updated.

The only SM Chapter that deserves it's own book is the Space Wolves (and even then it's a stretch) and Chaos Marines. Grey Knights work well as another elite Marine choice, like the Legion of the Damned (who were a rather obscure chapter in the 4th edition, and really didnt have much point in being in the book other than to give us some new gimmick unit to move overpriced metal models). Black Templars are a second founding chapter and the two Angel dexes are also Codex Chapters, so there's really no point in giving them extra codexes (maybe a few trait specialization or something, and a unique unit, but doesnt really warrent a new codex when others are due).

There is one army concept that needs to be turned into a codex, and that is the Lost and the Damned. Unlike Chaos Space Marines, they are not a Spikey rehash of their Imperial Guard counterpart. There is so much untapped potential there, and I bet it would be welcomed with just as much, if not more, fanfare than the Dark Eldar got.

It's probably a looooong way off, but I think Ad Mech could get thrown in without causing too much of an uproar. Considering the background it's actually a little suprising they aren't already in.

Oh forgot Lost and the Damned, not every heretic is a space marine so these guys could enter the game without messing with fluff, just like the Ad-mech.

Happygrunt wrote:DA, as of now, are a codex chapter. SW, BA, and BT are the only three chapters who need their own book. Greyknights are different, and the chaos book needs to become chaos legions. But GW really as all their bases covered in terms of play-styles.

BA until May weren't all that different at all aside from Death Company, a couple vehicle weapon options, and an FoC swap for Assault Marines. Likewise with BT they really only get Vows (no different or any less dispensable than Traits or Doctrines) and mixing Scout equivalents with Tacs. Both of these armies could have been easily folded in. Likewise, SW's had even less difference in terms of vehicles (none) compared with C:SM, and now basically are C:SM vehicles and wargear with C:CSM non-cult infantry units, but with Counterattack and Acute senses and cheaper weapon options. None of these books would have been difficult to fold into a single marine codex.

I still personally think the Space Wolves are different enough from the Marines to actually warrent their own book. They're the only chapter to outright reject the Codex Astartes and are allowed to do what they want without serious retribution. However any Chapter that is either not a founding chapter or mostly codex chapter should not get it's own book, just way too excessive.

Space Wolfs are mutants us Chaos boyz know that simple truth ::snickers::

Q'Orl swarmhood would be fun. Proper insects with an expanding empire, No hive mind. But a mindless fanaticism to invade new worlds and attack in huge numbers. But to back up earlier posts. GW need to get their house in order with all the older codexes needing updated before anything new comes out. Adeptus mechanicus will hopefully happen some day. There's too much of a following and popularity for them for GW not to capitalise on it.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I still personally think the Space Wolves are different enough from the Marines to actually warrent their own book. They're the only chapter to outright reject the Codex Astartes and are allowed to do what they want without serious retribution. However any Chapter that is either not a founding chapter or mostly codex chapter should not get it's own book, just way too excessive.

But what really makes them all that *different*? The entire SW arsenal of ranged weapons and vehicles (and vehicle options) is identical to that of C:SM except that C:SM has a few more bits, and the overwhelmingly vast majority of wargear and CC weapons are identical as well. Their troops have, by and large, the same stats, weapons and special rules. The real difference is some HQ gear, and the BP/CCW/Counterattack combo, which exists largely simply to differentiate them (and basically makes them CSM's +1), and of course now TWC's. They still wouldn't be hard to fold into a comprehensive C:SM book at all. The primary reason they have their own book is simply that they always have had their own book, and little else.

There are far more differences between a Death Guard warband and Ahriman's cult breakaway, or a Night Lords splinter force, or between a DKoK Siege Regiment and a Tallarn Armored Company or a Cadian Infantry Regiment than there are between C:SM and C:SW. You could probably make the case for dozens and dozens of codex's, but unless one wants to go down the route of Flames of War with tons of PDF armies that GW is adamantly opposed to, it'll never happen. With that being the case, the best approach is to merge as many armies as possible into as few books as possible so everything stays relatively up to date, competitive, and gets new releases more often.

There's a reason we see so many threads about people using C:SW or C:BA or C:SM in place of CA/C:BT/C:CSM, because the newer ones are generally more capable and have more stuff,and it takes no effort to simply write up a new list and change *maybe* a couple pieces of gear on a handful of models, if that? When that's the case, there are too many army books, and too little differentiation between them.