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In the fluff of the game during the Golden Age and Dark Age of Technology humanity built metal men. But those metal men turned on humanity and a war was fought with them. In various codex's and novels it is also said that the Emperor put the Void Dragon beneath Mars in the Noctis Labyrinth. In the Necron Codex it mentions that terrible secrets where ripped from the Void Dragon during the Golden Age which would lead to the Dark Age and war with the Metal Men.

So did humanity create its own lesser Necrons? These metal men that started the war and where eventually defeated by the Humanity?

Yes

No. They created AI. The AI turned on them. Big war. Humanity won (survived) And never built AI again. The machine spirit is a kind of semi-AI as it can do things but only within it's programmed limitations.
The Void Dragon basically made anyone on mars obssessed with technology. Although he might have influenced them into building AI. They weren't Necrons by a long stretch.

It says metal men.. I assumed they have metal bodies for them to be called that.

Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

purplefood wrote:Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

or the plot of the matrix but without the humans loosing bit... and its in space.

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

or the plot of the matrix but without the humans loosing bit... and its in space.

Probably both... but without slow-mo

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

or the plot of the matrix but without the humans loosing bit... and its in space.

Probably both... but without slow-mo

Neomperor?

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

or the plot of the matrix but without the humans loosing bit... and its in space.

Probably both... but without slow-mo

Neomperor?

Smith/Skynet Horus?
Smorus Net?
Nah. Doesn't work.

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

or the plot of the matrix but without the humans loosing bit... and its in space.

Probably both... but without slow-mo

Neomperor?

Smith/Skynet Horus?
Smorus Net?
Nah. Doesn't work.

Horus Skysmith totally sounds like a 40k character

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well yeah.
It's basically the plot of terminator except without the going back in time bit... and it's in space.
They weren't Necrons but the design may have been influenced by Mr. Dragon but they definatly weren't Necrons.

or the plot of the matrix but without the humans loosing bit... and its in space.

Probably both... but without slow-mo

Neomperor?

Smith/Skynet Horus?
Smorus Net?
Nah. Doesn't work.

Horus Skysmith totally sounds like a 40k character

It does...
Could be a weird Necron character.

Emperor in black leather and shades VS a necron in a suit and shades in a hivecity at night in the rain

corpsesarefun wrote:Emperor in black leather and shades VS a necron in a suit and shades in a hivecity at night in the rain

Totally worth watching. Might just mute it next time i watch the Matrix and pretend that is what's happening

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Emperor in black leather and shades VS a necron in a suit and shades in a hivecity at night in the rain

Totally worth watching. Might just mute it next time i watch the Matrix and pretend that is what's happening

I am so making a diorama of that, maybe the bit with the giant water sphere?

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Emperor in black leather and shades VS a necron in a suit and shades in a hivecity at night in the rain

Totally worth watching. Might just mute it next time i watch the Matrix and pretend that is what's happening

I am so making a diorama of that, maybe the bit with the giant water sphere?

If you do it would be totally awesome. Maybe use some kind of clear plastic to make the water sphere?

Kind of a mix of the matrix,terminator and I, Robot all into one.

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Emperor in black leather and shades VS a necron in a suit and shades in a hivecity at night in the rain

Totally worth watching. Might just mute it next time i watch the Matrix and pretend that is what's happening

I am so making a diorama of that, maybe the bit with the giant water sphere?

If you do it would be totally awesome. Maybe use some kind of clear plastic to make the water sphere?

Ballon+water effects+careful cutting and regluing=awesome.

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Emperor in black leather and shades VS a necron in a suit and shades in a hivecity at night in the rain

Totally worth watching. Might just mute it next time i watch the Matrix and pretend that is what's happening

I am so making a diorama of that, maybe the bit with the giant water sphere?

If you do it would be totally awesome. Maybe use some kind of clear plastic to make the water sphere?

Ballon+water effects+careful cutting and regluing=awesome.

Good idea.

Smiskynohorus Net is the Void Dragon.

Try saying that name really fast ten times!

In the "Gaunt's Ghosts" series one of the main characters finds an STC that is a generator for these metal men although it has been tainted by chaos.

the couldn't be necrons because necrons are like anti chaos or just anti warp......

The Iron Men are robots with AI. Necrons are sentient beings trapped inside a living metal shell.

The necrons are probably far more advanced, the Void Dragon at the most just inspired a love of tech in the martians.

WARORK93 wrote:In the "Gaunt's Ghosts" series one of the main characters finds an STC that is a generator for these metal men although it has been tainted by chaos.

Iron Men don't stand a chance against Colonel Commisar Ibram Gaunt!
Yeah anyways, the distinction between iron men and necrons is a matter of whats behind the metal.. AI or OI (organic intelligence)

LegacyOfBaal wrote:In the fluff of the game during the Golden Age and Dark Age of Technology humanity built metal men. But those metal men turned on humanity and a war was fought with them. In various codex's and novels it is also said that the Emperor put the Void Dragon beneath Mars in the Noctis Labyrinth. In the Necron Codex it mentions that terrible secrets where ripped from the Void Dragon during the Golden Age which would lead to the Dark Age and war with the Metal Men.

So did humanity create its own lesser Necrons? These metal men that started the war and where eventually defeated by the Humanity?

Mankind creates AI's to do its tasks. Said AI's becomes self aware and decide to try and destroy it/their creators. So not really necrons as they were never living beings to begin with. Pure robot constructs that decided to wage war on humanity.

AI was created again before the Horus Heresy in form of the Kaban Engine, which was corrupted by Khorne.

Plus the iron men didn't have living metal as far as I know.