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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 14:52:38
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It makes those pesky Dark Eldar Reroll Their Flickerfields.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 15:04:39
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Not a bad thought.
I look forward to trying this out!
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 16:09:44
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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The top 3 vanilla librarian powers before the de codex came out were:
#1Nullzone
#2Nullzone, no other power is even close.
#3Nullzone, seriously what other purpose does a vanilla librarian serve besides nullzone and a psychic hood.
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 16:19:10
Subject: Re:Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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I actually quite like the Vortex of Doom on a Terminator Librarian but that is a very distant second place.
Null Zone is, as much as I hate to admit it, perhaps a little too good.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 16:21:55
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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feel it would be a bit OP if it lasted more than 1 player turn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 16:26:10
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Good point.
That does tone it down a bit.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 17:54:37
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Well the teleport is very good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 18:18:21
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Charing Cold One Knight
Lafayette, IN
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I honestly don't know why people don't just auto include a nullzone librarian when making lists. I know I do. 100 pts + whatever gear and you get defense against psychers and the ability to put the screws into difficult units. Beat stick characters aren't that great, utility is better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 18:30:11
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, NZ only works in a range of 24''.
Venoms have built-in flickerfields while Raiders and Ravagers have not.
A DE army which spends points for flickerfield upgrades for Raiders and Ravagers is highly welcome as it eventually wastes a lot of points.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/27 18:30:28
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 18:37:25
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Charing Cold One Knight
Lafayette, IN
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wuestenfux wrote:Well, NZ only works in a range of 24''.
Venoms have built-in flickerfields while Raiders and Ravagers have not.
A DE army which spends points for flickerfield upgrades for Raiders and Ravagers is highly welcome as it eventually wastes a lot of points.
It isn't really a waste. I've run the numbers on it and it makes the vehicles much more survivable, in fact the same numbers as if you were turbo boosting with them. Against S9+ weapon a FF raider is more durable than a rhino, and against S8, it is pretty close to even IIRC.
Even if you pay for it 6+ times, the points don't really hurt all that much since it makes your vehicles much more survivable. More turns of using your raiders/ravagers is better than the 1 more you might be able afford.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 19:55:26
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Never ran the numbers. But if you say so, then flickerfields should be a must-have in an environment with lascannons.
But I guess Raiders go down with ease against heavy bolters or autocannons.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 22:57:43
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Awesome Autarch
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Nullzone
Gate
Avenger
Those are the only powers I ever use. All are super useful, but I have to say, Gate is my favorite. I have a list built around squads of 10 termies gating around with a libby and it is good fun.
@OP
That is a good utility for Nullzone that I had not thought of. Nullzone would work on Bjorn, too.
Thanks for pointing that out!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 23:05:51
Subject: Even more Reason to take Null zone on your Librarian
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Charing Cold One Knight
Lafayette, IN
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wuestenfux wrote:Never ran the numbers. But if you say so, then flickerfields should be a must-have in an environment with lascannons.
But I guess Raiders go down with ease against heavy bolters or autocannons.
volume of S 5-7 fire is how you take down raiders, so you are correct. Chimeras and dakka preds are particularly good against raiders.
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