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I had a buddy who went undefeated in back to back BFG leagues playing a Chaos Ordnance spam fleet.

I know the new FAQ has changed the Ordnance rules and drastically limited Ordnance spam. But I was wondering if a Chaos Ordnance fleet was still viable under the new rules? I was thinking something like two Styx pumping out bombers, supporting a gun line of four Slaughters.

What about a fleet of Imperial cruisers firing torpedoes, back up by bombers from a Dictator?

Just wondering what the state of the game is. Thanks.


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I have two 1500 point fleet lists, one Ordnance heavy and the other a "gun line" with just a small amount of Ordnance to provide fighter cover. I'd like some feedback.


FLEET 1

Chaos Warmaster
Styx
Styx
Devastation
Carnage
Carnage
Carnage
Infidel x 3


FLEET 2

Chaos Warmaster
Archeron
Archeron
Devastation
Devastation
Carnage
Carnage
Carnage
Idolator x 2

To be precise, it is not the FAQ that is the offiical sorce of the new ordnance rules, but the new version of the rulebook that is available in PDF form from the GW website. Chaos is still a force to be reckoned with in the ordnance battle, since their carriers are both cheap and effective as gunships in their own right (something the Dictator struggles to do). Chaos also benefits from having assault boats as standard, which not every fleet has either. Dictators are a bit of a thread, since they have the ability to force the choice of shooting at torpedoes or bombers with your turrets. Still, the number of bombers they kick out is so limited that you will probably be better off shooting at them IMO.

Seeing two Styx in a 1500 point list is a bit unusual; "orthodox" Chaos list building generally prefers the Devastation due to its efficiency. You could probably make it work, although you should recognize that you are concentrating your eggs into fewer baskets.

Ruckdog wrote:Seeing two Styx in a 1500 point list is a bit unusual; "orthodox" Chaos list building generally prefers the Devastation due to its efficiency. You could probably make it work, although you should recognize that you are concentrating your eggs into fewer baskets.

I could downgrade one of the Styx to a Devastation, drop the escorts and take another Carnage.

I actually have enough points to upgrade one Carnage to a Hades or an Archeron, but I think I'd prefer four Carnage.

I really like the Carnage. But then again, one Carnage and one Hades working in tandem is a scary thing.

Weapons batteries are king in the chaos fleet, but attack craft is a close second. They have a roll to play vs every type of opponent. Ive used dreadclaws to wipe out enemy escorts in a single turn. Bombers are very effective vs orks and eldar. You need lots of fighters for anti-torpedo and fleet defense as well. Build a core of firepower and everything else should be carriers.