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If Yriel uses The Eye of Wrath in CC while in cover, do you get a cover save from it? The attack has a strength and an (AP).

As fare as I am able to determine, you do not gain cover for two reasons.

Number 1- As it is used during the assault, and the defender must react to the assault the majority of models in the unit are certainly within line of sight without intervening terrain.

Number 2- As it is used in lieu of close combat attacks, and in the assault phase, it is still counted as a CC attack as far as I am able to determine even though it does have an AP value.

1) I disagree - if you are in area terrain you are still "in terrain" and so would get cover saves, even if clearly in line of sight.
2) You use this instead of making close combat attacks - and only close combat attacks deny cover saves.

So I read it that you would receive cover saves, but would likely have to be standing in area terrain...

nosferatu1001 wrote:So I read it that you would receive cover saves, but would likely have to be standing in area terrain...

Intervening units could also give you a save, if Yriel has a bodyguard (and if it it is a shooting attack).

The Eye of a Wrath is a wierd almost-shooting-but-used-in-close-combat attack. Probably best to talk it over with whoever you're playing against.

Not if theyre the same unit as Yriel, as your own unit cannot give cover.
It is more a shooting than a close combat attack, as it has an AP value - you dont have AP in close combat.

You can't get cover from it, I found it in the rule book page 39 I believe. No cover saves from CC attacks, and it is a CC attack.

Crap I thought it said it was a CC attack, but it doesn't. It says you can do this instead of your CC attacks. What a wonky attack. I can't dertermine wether you get cover or not if you are in area terrain. I know it has an AP, but I can't find anything in the rule book that says ONLY shooting attacks have an AP.

You get cover from it, because (as I pointed out above) you make this attack instead of making your close combat attacks: this means it CANNOT be a close combat attack - otherwise you wouldnt be doing it "instead of" making your CC attacks.

THis means that you get a cover save, as only CC attacks are denied cover saves. In addition if you look in the shooting section you will see AP is mentioned, making it a shooting attack.

nosferatu1001 wrote:You get cover from it, because (as I pointed out above) you make this attack instead of making your close combat attacks: this means it CANNOT be a close combat attack - otherwise you wouldnt be doing it "instead of" making your CC attacks.

THis means that you get a cover save, as only CC attacks are denied cover saves. In addition if you look in the shooting section you will see AP is mentioned, making it a shooting attack.

Well you could be making a special Close combat attack instead of your regular Close combat attacks, but it would have to specify that.

as it is now instead of making Close comabt attacks he makes a ranged attack in Close combat(we know this is a ranged attack because it has an AP value, something that only Ranged weapons, or style of attacks, have). Because it is not a Close comabt attack you get Cover saves from it, so long as you are in area terrain, within the AOE of a rule that grants Cover saves, or there is some cover providing terrain between your model and Yriel.

In short nos is 100% correct.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Not if theyre the same unit as Yriel, as your own unit cannot give cover.

When Yriel's attacks are resolved, he's considered a seperate single-model unit.