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But if the god had full power and the some eldar were still alive would the eldar race grow again?

origarmi chicken wrote:But if the god had full power and the some eldar were still alive would the eldar race grow again?

No because ynnead is made from all the eldar souls ever.

But what if a really powerfull farseer is killed and joins the infinity circuit and powerd Ynnead fully and the other Eldar did not need to die.

NOOOOOO! not ELDRAAD!

Nulipuli2 wrote:NOOOOOO! not ELDRAAD!

YEEEEESHH!

It dosn't have to be Eldraad just another powerfull farseer to give Ynnead enough power.


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So what would happen? would the Eldar repopulate the galaxey and destroy Slaanesh?

Nulipuli2 wrote:NOOOOOO! not ELDRAAD!

Uhm, he already died....................just sayin

Your not getting this whole ynnead thing are you?

If every eldar dies (including their greatest farseers) and is absorbed into the infinity circuit then they all meld together and form a warp entity powered by their souls and the sacrifice they made.

origarmi chicken wrote:It dosn't have to be Eldraad just another powerfull farseer to give Ynnead enough power.


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So what would happen? would the Eldar repopulate the galaxey and destroy Slaanesh?

When Slaanesh was born, the majority of Eldar souls were sucked into the warp to be consumed by the new Chaos God. The center of their empire became the Eye of Terror, and every Eldar except for the most remote craft and exodite worlds died.

If Slaanesh is the majority of Eldar Souls, in addition to every other sentient creature that has sworn itself to its service, why would Ynnead with a minority of Eldar souls minus any followers of other races become powerful enough to destroy Slaanesh?

corpsesarefun wrote:Your not getting this whole ynnead thing are you?

If every eldar dies (including their greatest farseers) and is absorbed into the infinity circuit then they all meld together and form a warp entity powered by their souls and the sacrifice they made.

I thought it was stated pretty much that some farseers believed this. Not that its a definite fact? Maybe if enough eldar do join with the infinity circuit as time goes on it will be enough (if not be very gradual) to awaken Ynnead?

Lexx wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Your not getting this whole ynnead thing are you?

If every eldar dies (including their greatest farseers) and is absorbed into the infinity circuit then they all meld together and form a warp entity powered by their souls and the sacrifice they made.

I thought it was stated pretty much that some farseers believed this. Not that its a definite fact? Maybe if enough eldar do join with the infinity circuit as time goes on it will be enough (if not be very gradual) to awaken Ynnead?

Ynnead is the eldar god of death, created by the death of all eldar and his existence is only fortold by eldrad but no matter how you slice it Ynnead will not just pop out of nowhere to help the eldar and save the day as 40k is just not that nice.

Also the deaths dont awaken Ynnead, they create it.

From the tiny bit of info GW gives us on Ynnead I drew an interesting conclusion that is my personal opinion.

Eldar, before Slaanesh were rencarnated through the warp and reborn in the material plane.

Slaanesh was born of all the eldars selfish hedonism, while Ynnead is being born of all there selfless sacrifices. So once every eldar is dead and sacrificed to Ynnead his birth will cancle out the birth of Slaanesh and it will be as if he never existed. Then the eldar will start to be reborn once again into the galaxy in greater numbers through rencarnation. Just my take on it.

Ynnead is not some super sayan bad god that the eldar are growing to use as some kind of super weapon against slaanesh and the rest of there enemies, that was never the eldars style. Far too much like human thinking. No it will be born to balance out the damage the eldar have already done.

Also what about the dark kin? Will the Dark eldar souls also need to be sacrificed for Ynnead? How will that happen?

Laughing God wrote:From the tiny bit of info GW gives us on Ynnead I drew an interesting conclusion that is my personal opinion.

Eldar, before Slaanesh were rencarnated through the warp and reborn in the material plane.

Slaanesh was born of all the eldars selfish hedonism, while Ynnead is being born of all there selfless sacrifices. So once every eldar is dead and sacrificed to Ynnead his birth will cancle out the birth of Slaanesh and it will be as if he never existed. Then the eldar will start to be reborn once again into the galaxy in greater numbers through rencarnation. Just my take on it.

Ynnead is not some super sayan bad god that the eldar are growing to use as some kind of super weapon against slaanesh and the rest of there enemies, that was never the eldars style. Far too much like human thinking. No it will be born to balance out the damage the eldar have already done.

Also what about the dark kin? Will the Dark eldar souls also need to be sacrificed for Ynnead? How will that happen?

I like the points raised in this. Maybe the craftworlders can capture their dark kin and imprison their souls in the infinity circuit? As I cant see Dark Eldar doing it willingly as they see it as pointless at best. And Ynnead being a god of death actually heralding the restart and rejuvenation of the eldars civilisation sounds like a very Eldar thing to happen. Always thinking about the longer term game.

Lexx wrote:

Laughing God wrote:From the tiny bit of info GW gives us on Ynnead I drew an interesting conclusion that is my personal opinion.

Eldar, before Slaanesh were rencarnated through the warp and reborn in the material plane.

Slaanesh was born of all the eldars selfish hedonism, while Ynnead is being born of all there selfless sacrifices. So once every eldar is dead and sacrificed to Ynnead his birth will cancle out the birth of Slaanesh and it will be as if he never existed. Then the eldar will start to be reborn once again into the galaxy in greater numbers through rencarnation. Just my take on it.

Ynnead is not some super sayan bad god that the eldar are growing to use as some kind of super weapon against slaanesh and the rest of there enemies, that was never the eldars style. Far too much like human thinking. No it will be born to balance out the damage the eldar have already done.

Also what about the dark kin? Will the Dark eldar souls also need to be sacrificed for Ynnead? How will that happen?

I like the points raised in this. Maybe the craftworlders can capture their dark kin and imprison their souls in the infinity circuit? As I cant see Dark Eldar doing it willingly as they see it as pointless at best. And Ynnead being a god of death actually heralding the restart and rejuvenation of the eldars civilisation sounds like a very Eldar thing to happen. Always thinking about the longer term game.

Lol im just trying to fathom what any farseer is thinking puting the tainted souls of the dark in into the most pure place in the galaxy (infinity matrix)

It is believed that when enough Eldar souls have been gathered within the Infinity Circuits of the craftworlds, a new god will emerge; Ynnead, Eldar God of the Dead. It is hoped by Farseers that this god will be powerful enough to vanquish Slaanesh, freeing the Eldar from their doom.
quoted from http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Spirit_stone

and this says that it does not mean all the eldar have to die just enough

origarmi chicken wrote:It is believed that when enough Eldar souls have been gathered within the Infinity Circuits of the craftworlds, a new god will emerge; Ynnead, Eldar God of the Dead. It is hoped by Farseers that this god will be powerful enough to vanquish Slaanesh, freeing the Eldar from their doom.
quoted from http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Spirit_stone

and this says that it does not mean all the eldar have to die just enough

Hey look, I can quote Lexicanum too!

"Ynnead represents the last hope of the dwindling Eldar race. They believe that when the Infinity Circuits hold all the spirits of their race, all of the Craftworlds will unite into one Infinity Circuit, and the collective spirits of the Eldar will join to form a new Power in the Warp that will battle and subdue Slaanesh, so that Eldar spirits may once more be able to merge with it and form a single, balanced entity."

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ynnead

It notes Craftworlds, so I assume DE are out? As in, they don't need to be in the Circuitn(not that they would), but what would they do once slaanesh is gone?

Footsloggin wrote:It notes Craftworlds, so I assume DE are out? As in, they don't need to be in the Circuitn(not that they would), but what would they do once slaanesh is gone?

It is the DE's and Exodite's duty to recreate the Eldar Race.

Footsloggin wrote:It notes Craftworlds, so I assume DE are out? As in, they don't need to be in the Circuitn(not that they would), but what would they do once slaanesh is gone?

Dark Eldar would do everything Dark Eldar normally do. They're egotistical and think their way has always been the right way. So likely not much would change. Exodites would be busy doing whatever they do on their planets.

Craftworld Eldar don't have much love for Dark Eldar. They do tend to have a great respect for Exodites (being the first to depart from the collapsing Eldar society), and most will go out of their way to protect them.