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I think that they dont but im not sure

It would most likely depend on where the Chapter was at the time of the homeworlds destruction and the mentality of the Chapter in question. I can think of 4 general scenarios:

1) If the Chapter was on their homeworld in its entirity when it was destroyed then obviously the Chapter would not be around afterwards to take a new homeworld. Although their Chapter Planet wasn't destroyed the Crimson Fists and the invasion of Rynns world show how Chapters would be likely to defend their homeworld against any/all threats despite the odds being against them. Therefore the destruction of the homeworld means the destruction of the Chapter

2) If some/all of the Chapter was away from the homeworld-say on a crusade or extented duty elsewhere-then they may view the destruction of their homeworld as failure on their part to stop it. In these circumstances they may partake in a crusade of pennance which either ends with the Chapters destruction or some 'sign' that the Emperor has forgiven them at which point they may move to scenario 3.

3) The Chapter may have close links with other worlds in a star system, and may have built infrastructure their. In this case there is every chance they could relocate to another world. After all they still need recruits to the Chapter, supplies and somewhere to store relics, weapons etc and generally use as a base of operations. Whether the planet in question will want a Space Marine Chapter who failed to protect their original planet is another matter entirely

4) Depending on the circumstances in which the planet is destroyed the Chapter may go renegade-in which case a planetary base of operations may not be required. If the Inquisition destroys the planet it may result in the chapter being declared traitors, plus much ill will towards the Imperium. In any case, the destruction of the homeworld will likely mean the loss of many of the Chapters relics/support staff/items of importance, all of which could lead them to feel abandoned by the Emperor and so would not want to re-establish themselves in the Imperium.

Hope that helps and makes sense

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Storm Lord wrote:It would most likely depend on where the Chapter was at the time of the homeworlds destruction and the mentality of the Chapter in question. I can think of 4 general scenarios:

1) If the Chapter was on their homeworld in its entirity when it was destroyed then obviously the Chapter would not be around afterwards to take a new homeworld. Although their Chapter Planet wasn't destroyed the Crimson Fists and the invasion of Rynns world show how Chapters would be likely to defend their homeworld against any/all threats despite the odds being against them. Therefore the destruction of the homeworld means the destruction of the Chapter

2) If some/all of the Chapter was away from the homeworld-say on a crusade or extented duty elsewhere-then they may view the destruction of their homeworld as failure on their part to stop it. In these circumstances they may partake in a crusade of pennance which either ends with the Chapters destruction or some 'sign' that the Emperor has forgiven them at which point they may move to scenario 3.

3) The Chapter may have close links with other worlds in a star system, and may have built infrastructure their. In this case there is every chance they could relocate to another world. After all they still need recruits to the Chapter, supplies and somewhere to store relics, weapons etc and generally use as a base of operations. Whether the planet in question will want a Space Marine Chapter who failed to protect their original planet is another matter entirely

4) Depending on the circumstances in which the planet is destroyed the Chapter may go renegade-in which case a planetary base of operations may not be required. If the Inquisition destroys the planet it may result in the chapter being declared traitors, plus much ill will towards the Imperium. In any case, the destruction of the homeworld will likely mean the loss of many of the Chapters relics/support staff/items of importance, all of which could lead them to feel abandoned by the Emperor and so would not want to re-establish themselves in the Imperium.

Hope that helps and makes sense

This is fairly accurate, just going to correct a few things about 3/4.

The Chapter wouldn't necessarily need to stay within the star system, and may choose not to, but regardless, the planet has little to no say in the Astartes relocation. The Astartes are a law unto themselves, answerable only to the Emperor, and realistically, the High Lords of Terra, the Inquisition, the Navis Nobilite, and a few others, but a simple planetary government wouldn't be able to tell them no, they'd probably bend over backwards to accomodate them.

And for 4, if they were declared renegade by the Inquisition, I think they'd have a whole lot of issues before wondering whether or not they wanted to re-establish themselves...like all the Astartes and others hunting them to extinguish their 'traitorous, blackguard souls'.

It's really dependent upon circumstances, ie if there are enough survivors and they are granted or can claim another world.

The Fire Hawks chapter for example lost their initial homeworld after it was destroyed by Frateris Templars during the Wars of Apostasy, received another one about 2000 years later, before losing this one as well.

The Raptors also, it is believed, have had more than one homeworld too.

VenerableBrotherPelinore wrote:This is fairly accurate, just going to correct a few things about 3/4.

The Chapter wouldn't necessarily need to stay within the star system, and may choose not to, but regardless, the planet has little to no say in the Astartes relocation. The Astartes are a law unto themselves, answerable only to the Emperor, and realistically, the High Lords of Terra, the Inquisition, the Navis Nobilite, and a few others, but a simple planetary government wouldn't be able to tell them no, they'd probably bend over backwards to accomodate them.

add that to the fact that most space marine homeworlds don't have planetary goverments, being feral worlds.

I think this is one of those 'depends' questions...which means, for the most part, anything goes. Is this for a home brew chapter?

BluntmanDC wrote:

VenerableBrotherPelinore wrote:This is fairly accurate, just going to correct a few things about 3/4.

The Chapter wouldn't necessarily need to stay within the star system, and may choose not to, but regardless, the planet has little to no say in the Astartes relocation. The Astartes are a law unto themselves, answerable only to the Emperor, and realistically, the High Lords of Terra, the Inquisition, the Navis Nobilite, and a few others, but a simple planetary government wouldn't be able to tell them no, they'd probably bend over backwards to accomodate them.

add that to the fact that most space marine homeworlds don't have planetary goverments, being feral worlds.

Feral worlds may not have a functioning government, but still have a planetary governor in lots of fluff - just those governed don't necessarily know about it. I've read at least one piece of fluff where the governor of a feral world just hangs out in a space station in orbit above his world and the inhabitants don't even know he exists. Of course, a governor for a feral world will be nowere near as influential as a governor of a hive world.

Otherwise, a feral world would stil be administrated in some way and be tied into an administrative region, so a feral world that is administered by a nearby hiveworld may have the same titular governor as that hiveworld. Said governor would, presumably, appoint some administrator to keep an eye on things for him.

If there are survivors:
a) They will become a spacebound chapter
b) They will relocate
c) They will go on a crusade and either:
i) die
ii) never be seen again (alive? or not?)
iii) return and either do a) or b)

Fleet based chapters are not that rare. While it might be difficult to find a steady supply of recruits, other resources would'nt be to hard. One battle barge, a strike cruisier, and a few supporting ships could easily house the remains of most chapters. That is assuming that most of the chapter died before the homeworld fell.

as long as the Chapter still has at least 1 Apothecary and some Geneseed it can survive.

a Single Progenoid can be split into 2 and so a single gland harvested can make 2 new marines and each marine has 2 to begin with.



Most marine chapters spread their Geneseed reserves around so, in the event of Fortress monastary destruction, they can rebuild.


a Chapter can also request more Geenseed from Terra. each Chapter is required to send a sample for Purity testing and this geneseed then gets stored in stasis.

if the Chapters continued existance was required the Adeptus Terra could send some of the Geneseed back.


naturally this would be the least preferred method as it could take hundreds of years for such a transaction to take place.

I think they could, but they would probably board their ships and go avenge their planet,even if that means losing 99% of the chapter.
And all that for the "sake" of honor.

Not to bore you to tears with home-brew army fluff (I'll keep it concise ) my Chapter, The Hands of Vengeance, are fleet based ever since they lost their chapter planet to Waagh! Grubbynutz.

They're on a Penitence Crusade until they are able to get it back.