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hi all ,
i'm new to the tabletop as is my whole gaming group.
We played a game where something unexpected(well for noobs) happened.
The ork player was in range to assault two squads of guardsmen and decided to fire his pistols during his shooting phase and got very lucky mowing down a whole squad of guardsmen.Here is where it got complicated,he said that he would charge the second squad (wich would have been in range for a multi-assault).
The ig player then argued that in the brb a rule state that you must assault the squad you have shot, squad wich didn't exist anymore.
The ig player tought that if at least 1 model survived he could have launched a charge then multi assault but since no one survived he could not send the first charging model to conform to the multi assault rule.
The ork player however tought that since the squad he shot didn't exist anymore that limitation didn't apply anymore...
so what do you guys think,
thanks
Big Grey Book (40k 5th ed Rulebook)
Also BBB (Big Black/Blue Book...the colors they used to be), and BRB (Big Rule Book)
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The IG player was correct.

If you shoot at a unit, that is the only unit against which you may declare an assault that turn. The only exception being that if you shoot a transport and destroy it, you are allowed to assault a unit which pops out of said dead transport.

if 1 Model survived hed be fine, however beings he killed them all he cannot make an assault

Thanks for the quick replys.That was basically what i tought,but since that situation is bond to happen again, i wanted to see how experienced player interpreted this rule.
The outcome of the game basically revolved aroud that, so the discussion on that rule was quite heated. It will help keeping that game fun(less arguing and more dice rolling).

krados wrote:The ork player however tought that since the squad he shot didn't exist anymore that limitation didn't apply anymore...

Ork player is wrong. The rule states that you have to charge the unit you shot at, and there are no other rules that lift that requirement. The multi-assault rules make the continued existence of that first unit a prerequisite for doing anything else.

I am amazed Ork shooting managed to kill that many guardsmen!

He should have held back from his shooting and just smashed them like a good Ork.

That'll learn 'im no to shoots when he could be fightin!

Well he shot a ccs or pcs (not being ig player,or ork for that matter its hard for me to tell)but still he managed to kill 5 of them. Had tho ork player known this i guess he would have shot the regular guardsmen whitout too many risk of being oversuccesfull,but then again causalty removal could have stumped him.
I guess ork carry guns mostly for the loud noise they make

And for shootin' BEFORE they get into assault range.

And fer when they jump outta' da trukk right next to da enemy, and dere's no risk of losin' out on da charge.

Whatcha shootin' at 5 measely humies fer anyway? Better to krump 'em!

Waaagh!

And for shooting at tough enemies. 20 sluggas (or shootas) is not going to wipe out a squad of marines but it might get a couple of them.

Mannahnin wrote:The IG player was correct.

If you shoot at a unit, that is the only unit against which you may declare an assault that turn. The only exception being that if you shoot a transport and destroy it, you are allowed to assault a unit which pops out of said dead transport.

Is this true? I have been told otherwise in past games

edit: i meant the assaulting a transports cargo after popping the transport itself

arkapello wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:The IG player was correct.

If you shoot at a unit, that is the only unit against which you may declare an assault that turn. The only exception being that if you shoot a transport and destroy it, you are allowed to assault a unit which pops out of said dead transport.

Is this true? I have been told otherwise in past games

edit: i meant the assaulting a transports cargo after popping the transport itself

Yes its true.

P.67, the second paragraph under "Destroyed - Explodes!".

Yes, you CAN assault the contents of a destroyed vehicle - this is, however, an *exception* to the normal rules of "you must assault what you shot at"