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So I need some help with this list but hopefully its just some tweaking

HQ
Libby (Avenger, NullZone?) - 100

Troops
10xTacticals (Combi-M, MG, ML) - 185
Rhino - 35

10xTacticals (Combi-M, MG, ML) - 185
Rhino - 35

Elites
Dread (AC, HF) - 125

Dread (AC, HF) - 125

6xSternguard (4xCombi-M, Combi-F, HF) - 185 (Libby goes here)
Rhino - 35

Heavy
Predator (HB Sponsons) - 85

Predator (HB Sponsons) - 85

Fast
2xTyphoons - 180

Speeder (MM, HF) - 70

Speeder (MM, HF) - 70


Im not sure on the Libbys powers. Avenger is a given but do I have enough weapons o warrant NullZone? aybe GoI is better if the Libby/Sternguard Rhino gets popped...
Dreads Im not entirely sure of either, should I go with the "normal" Rifelman config? More Dakka but less CC capabilities. Str 10 is nice for all kinds of IDing even if I do realize that Dreads are by no means the CC monsters they should be

Cheers and thanks in advance for all feedback

I would take GoI over Null Zone in this case. The Dreads should have Autocannons or Plasma Cannons not Assault Cannons in this case. Making them rifleman dreads isn't necessary plus they are your only form of CC punch. TBH the one thing that worries me most about this list is your lack of any real assault or counter assault units other than the dreads. I would suggest finding some room for a squad of Assault Terminators somewhere.

PCs might indeed be a good idea since you really lack anything that negates armour and FnP all the time.

Dont see how you could include Hammernators without turning your whole list around and into a rock list. 450ish pts are not easily found

Im confused by your weapons choices on the dreadnoughts, I'd recommend either two ranged weapons like an AC and a PC or if you really want to go with a HF then add a DCCW.


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Also, this list would benifit from Vulcan...

Catyrpelius wrote:Im confused by your weapons choices on the dreadnoughts, I'd recommend either two ranged weapons like an AC and a PC or if you really want to go with a HF then add a DCCW.


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Also, this list would benifit from Vulcan...

The weapon on the dread is an assault cannon and a heavy flamer on the DCCW. A PC might indeed be nice. While I think that I should have enough mobile dakka to not need THAT much counter assault.
Maybe I should drop one Typhoon in order to upgrade the Dakka preds to ACLC Preds? Or even Vindicators?


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Oh, and thanks for all the comments

Catyrpelius wrote:Im confused by your weapons choices on the dreadnoughts, I'd recommend either two ranged weapons like an AC and a PC or if you really want to go with a HF then add a DCCW.


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Also, this list would benifit from Vulcan...

In 5th ed pretty much every Marine list would benefit from Vulkan.

Would you prefer a list like this instead?

HQ
Captain (Relic Blade) - 130

Command Squad (4xPG, 2xStorm Shield , PF) - 230
Rhino - 35

Troops
10xTacticals (Combi-M, MG, ML) - 185
Rhino (Blades) - 40

10xTacticals (Combi-M, MG, ML) - 185
Rhino - 35

Elites
Dread (TLAC) - 115

Dread (TLAC) - 115

Fast
Speeder (MM,HF) - 70

Speeder (MM,HF) - 70


Heavy
Pred (HB Sponsons) - 85

Pred (HB Sponsons) - 85

Pred (Las Sponsons) - 120

No comments on the second list?

Its just a generic non-optimized SM list, what exactly about it do you want commmented on?

Catyrpelius wrote:Its just a generic non-optimized SM list, what exactly about it do you want commmented on?

Obvoiusly I want comments on Obamas latest proposal
If you haven't noticed this is a forum for army lists so I think the obvious answer to your question is that I want comments on how people think my list will work, are there any obvious flaws ect and if there are flaws then I would prefere it if people came up with some suggestions on how to solve it. What I don't want is smartass remarks and crappy blanket statements like "oh, and this list would benefit from vulkan"

hes just trolling as usual

@list why command squad? liberian instead?

I do prefer the Libby over the Captain, no doubt about it. I changed it around in the second list since I felt that I lacked AP2 weapons. However maybe this could work?

HQ
Libby (NullZone,Avenger) - 100

Troops
10xTacticals (Combi-F, Flamer, ML) - 185
Rhino - 35

10xTacticals (Combi-F, Flamer, ML) - 185
Rhino - 35

Elites
Dread (PC) - 115

Dread (PC) - 115

5xSternguard (4xCombi-M) - 145
Rhino - 35

Fast
Speeder (MM,HF) - 70

Speeder (MM,HF) - 70

2xTyphoon Speeder - 180

Heavy

Pred (LC Sponsons) - 120

Pred (LC Sponsons) - 120

More anti Mech than the first list, more AP2 and about the same number of flamers. Better or worse than the first list?