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With my DIY space marine chapter the imperial swords i was thinking that they could have merged with another chapter (im still thinking of a name) but what i what to know is if its possible

Two chapters could join, but this would either just be working together for a brief time, or two severly damaged chapters merging to keep themselves going.

Neither of these would really make one large army.

No. Never. It has never happened and most likely never will. 2 Chapters might fight together for a long time but they are still seperate forces. Also did you ever comment on your thread about your DIY chapter?

It would only be a very small amount of marines merging with a normal chapter, even a single company or two is enough to restart a chapter (such as the crimson fists).

If a chapter was nearly destroyed the remaining space marines may be put in charge of training their replacement, forming the command and veteran structure of the new chapter.

purplefood wrote:No. Never. It has never happened and most likely never will. 2 Chapters might fight together for a long time but they are still seperate forces. Also did you ever comment on your thread about your DIY chapter?

It has actually happened, it was one of the reasons for the badab war, the astral claws had remnant of the tiger claws within it.

from looking at the other threads, he didn't.

AFAIK chapters will never merge they will simply either fight to the last or painstakingly try to rebuild. Two prime examples come to mind, the Emperor's Scythes, now all but extinct and fighting to the last, and on the other side, the Crimson Fists, almost annihilated but now slowly rebuilding under Kantor's leadership

The whole point of the Second Founding was to limit the number of Space Marines that were being commanded from a single leader. Codex chapters (the great majority in existence) are limited to a very specific number of battle brothers, and so would simply not break that and take on another chapter of marines. The only only chapters I can think of that knowingly maintain larger then normal chapters are Space Wolves (cause they don't give a rip about the codex astartes, really) and the Black Templars (supposedly due to Rogal Dorn's orders).

/sigh.

You really don't need to start a new thread everytime you have a new question for your Space Marine Chapter. Think so far you've started at least three, all with the same goal in mind.

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An Astartes Chapter will not merge with another, for alot of various reasons including gene-seed, history, recruitment/traditions, and just Space Marines being too stubborn to admit the Chapter may need to do that to survive.

Many Chapters have been reduced to several companies or less, and refused to accept the death of the Chapter, and thus rebuilt. The Space Wolves have been reduced to one or two companies at least once in their history (Not going to say more although I think it has been, because I can't find the reference), the Crimson Fists were reduced to three companies in the Battle for Rynn's World, and others have had similar events.

The ones that don't rebuild, die. The Celestial Lions are a good example of this. Wiped out on the battlefields of Armageddon with no Apothecary to harvest the gene-seed, the remaining Celestial Lions have sworn to join their brothers in death.

They also certainly wouldn't rebuild themselves into a massive chapter. The seperation of power in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy, one of the major reasons for the strict adherance to the Codex Astartes, specifically works against it. There are chapters that aren't codex-adherant, but they pretend to be to a point, and they always have the political might to make themselves too challenging a target to take down. The Space Wolves number higher than the 1000 marines of the Codex, but are a First Founding Chapter. Likewise, the Black Templars numbers substantially more, but are spread-out on various crusades so no official count can be made, and have substantial political clout as well.

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The Astral Claws did do it, in the case of the Tiger Claws, and took themselves above the codex limits, but they also ended up on the firiing line from the Inquisition over it, and had quite possibly already turned to Chaos.

Magister187 wrote:The only only chapters I can think of that knowingly maintain larger then normal chapters are Space Wolves (cause they don't give a rip about the codex astartes, really) and the Black Templars (supposedly due to Rogal Dorn's orders).

And the Grey Knights, but they don't really count...

Voltron Marines?

purplefood wrote:No. Never. It has never happened and most likely never will. 2 Chapters might fight together for a long time but they are still seperate forces. Also did you ever comment on your thread about your DIY chapter?

Astral Knights became the Sable Swords after the legions death at the World Engine. But thats one legion forming to replace what was lost.

Though for two chapters to merge they would have to have the same parent chapter like the Primogenitors (which make up the most). But every chapter has different quirks of the gene-seed. So while their armor would be the same you would notice which chapter they where originally from in the quirks they display.

Part of the solidarity of a chapter is they are all from the same stock. Such a divide inside the chapter would only eventually lead to a civil war.

LegacyOfBaal wrote:Astral Knights became the Sable Swords after the legions death at the World Engine. But thats one legion forming to replace what was lost.

First it wasn't a legion it was a chapter.

Second the only link between the astral knights and the sable swords is the fortresy monestry. This is one of the events where a chapters distruction was in the field and not defending their homeworld. All chapters are created for a purpose, with the astral knights losts that purpose needed to be filled and the IoM isn't going to waste a perfect space marine world so they put the sable swords their.