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im curious if you have to use the 60mm bases provided for the heavy weapons teams or can you put it on another base. currently i got a couple on the biker bases just so i can get more weapons teams from what the box provides, is that play legal?

Right at the front of the rulebook, where it talks about the models used in the game, it states that they must be mounted on the bases they come with.

If you're substituting other models, that would by extension mean mounting them on the base appropriate to what you are using them as.

So yes, Heavy Weapon Teams should be on 60mm bases.


That being said, there are a lot of players still using older models on smaller bases. Most players don't really care that much.

Heavy weapons teams also come with a pair of 25mm bases, or mine did at least.

So would that cause problems?

I'll do you one better. I have praetorians and some of their heavy weapon teams come with 1 figure on a 25mm base and the other with no base. And yes, it is legal to use/play them that way (See Insaniak's post above).

Yes and no. If they're supplied with 25mm bases, it's technically legal to base them on them... But it's going to cause problems in the rules without a house rule governing how the team works, as the current rules rely on the team being a single, two-wound model rather than two separately-based individuals.

Just put them on 25mm bases and then buy some 60mm bases from the internet and stick them on there. You can do it in such a way where it actually looks rather nice, while making them undisputedly legal.

For example, this is how I did mine. The missile launcher guy and the attendant are on their own bases and I simply place them on a pre-based 60mm base before the game begins. Easy, effective, and, most importantly, interchangeable.

thanks guys appreciate the clarification

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Heavy weapons teams also come with a pair of 25mm bases, or mine did at least.

So would that cause problems?

They don't anymore.

Yes, it would cause problems. Think about what happens when a squad with HWT get's hit by a blast or template. Firstly, the HWT now has two bases instead of one. Secondly, those two bases combined are a much smaller area than the 60mm.

Ailaros wrote:Just put them on 25mm bases and then buy some 60mm bases from the internet and stick them on there. You can do it in such a way where it actually looks rather nice, while making them undisputedly legal.

Really? Because a) They are still not glued to the base provided b) They are a damn side (4mm yeah that's not huge =_=) higher now than they should be.

ChrisCP wrote:

Ailaros wrote:Just put them on 25mm bases and then buy some 60mm bases from the internet and stick them on there. You can do it in such a way where it actually looks rather nice, while making them undisputedly legal.

Really? Because a) They are still not glued to the base provided b) They are a damn side (4mm yeah that's not huge =_=) higher now than they should be.

a) they may not be glued but they're still on it b) drill into the 60mm base?

ChrisCP wrote:

Ailaros wrote:Just put them on 25mm bases and then buy some 60mm bases from the internet and stick them on there. You can do it in such a way where it actually looks rather nice, while making them undisputedly legal.

Really? Because a) They are still not glued to the base provided b) They are a damn side (4mm yeah that's not huge =_=) higher now than they should be.

a) being glued isn't a problem if they don't move around. You glue your valk stand on?
b) BRB already covers scenic bases.

"...base. If so, they must be glued onto their bases before
they can be used in the game." Pg 3
They are not glued to their base... and I don't own a valk (And that drilling idea sounds good ... although the models may still not be glued to the right base of the two )


"As mounting your models on different sized
bases" Pg 3
True we don't have a clear definition of what a 'base size' is in the brb. But if one is taking 'base size' to mean both height and diameter then why can't someone mount their HWT on 10mm high bases (because they won't be glued to the bases supplied with them), after all it's a slippery slope.

In addition 'undisptedly legal' is a bit meh when their legality is upto the discretion of the person you're playing...
"make sure before the game that your opponent does not mind this." Pg 3

ChrisCP wrote:Really? Because a) They are still not glued to the base provided b) They are a damn side (4mm yeah that's not huge =_=) higher now than they should be.

Nobody in their right mind is actually going to object to 'a'... and 'b' is no different to any other model that has been based standing on a rock.

The 'requirement' to glue models to their bases is, IMO, over-stressed in rules discussions. Yes, you could argue that it's the RAW. But the statement taken as a whole and in context is simply telling you that you have to use the base the model is supplied with. The fact that it is supposed to be glued on is a bit of a non-issue, since that would normally be necessary just to make the model stand up anyway. It's not intended as a hard and fast rule saying 'all bases must be glued'... as evidenced by the skimmer rules, that allow you to remove the base in certain situations, which would be impossible if it's always glued on.

insaniak wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:Really? Because a) They are still not glued to the base provided b) They are a damn side (4mm yeah that's not huge =_=) higher now than they should be.

Nobody in their right mind is actually going to object to 'a'... and 'b' is no different to any other model that has been based standing on a rock.

The 'requirement' to glue models to their bases is, IMO, over-stressed in rules discussions. Yes, you could argue that it's the RAW. But the statement taken as a whole and in context is simply telling you that you have to use the base the model is supplied with. The fact that it is supposed to be glued on is a bit of a non-issue, since that would normally be necessary just to make the model stand up anyway. It's not intended as a hard and fast rule saying 'all bases must be glued'... as evidenced by the skimmer rules, that allow you to remove the base in certain situations, which would be impossible if it's always glued on.

Just use that glue that they put on sticky notes. That way TFG won't have any ability to object, and you can easily pull them off and wipe the glue clean.

Grakmar wrote:

insaniak wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:Really? Because a) They are still not glued to the base provided b) They are a damn side (4mm yeah that's not huge =_=) higher now than they should be.

Nobody in their right mind is actually going to object to 'a'... and 'b' is no different to any other model that has been based standing on a rock.

The 'requirement' to glue models to their bases is, IMO, over-stressed in rules discussions. Yes, you could argue that it's the RAW. But the statement taken as a whole and in context is simply telling you that you have to use the base the model is supplied with. The fact that it is supposed to be glued on is a bit of a non-issue, since that would normally be necessary just to make the model stand up anyway. It's not intended as a hard and fast rule saying 'all bases must be glued'... as evidenced by the skimmer rules, that allow you to remove the base in certain situations, which would be impossible if it's always glued on.

Just use that glue that they put on sticky notes. That way TFG won't have any ability to object, and you can easily pull them off and wipe the glue clean.

Blue-tack/magnets also work.

Assuming your 60mm base is already designed to have 2-28mm bases stuck to it; then you will already have the spots to put both og your 28mm bases on no matter what weapons you decide to mount(i.e. your 28mm model with a lascannon fits in just the same way as you 28mm model with a Heavy bolter or AC).

All that said; the HWT is 1 model; you should never have 2-28mm models representing it(I use my spare bodies as additional 28mm basic guardsmen).