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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 13:51:47
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Courageous Questing Knight
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Now, most people [I have been in this position] feel that land raider killing isn't necesarily the lascannons big shot, there are other choices there.
First, lets look at tank hunting:
Percs:
Long range.
Good strength. capable.
often possible to field onmasse for not too much, and at that with twin linked..
Caveats
Heavy
single shot
unreliable against AV14. [I do not mean useless! I do however mean that there are better options, and that a 6 to pen isn't exactly a reliable number. ]
Tactic:
IF you're facing AV ten, usually one lascannon fireing will be fine. but it's generally a good idea that for every point above AV10, add a lascannon. [simply based on the fact that it is better to have firepower take out one big target that will be a problem, then to pepper lots of squads with a little bit of firepower.] usually the squad attached to the lascannons will be useless. [though good for taking hits.] There is no clear method here. six lascannons is alot of firepower just for one puny tank, and on average you'll only get a 3-4 area.
Against troops:
Percs:
Long range
wounds on a 2+
AP2.
Caveats:
Overkill. there are better options
can only ever take out one target.
Heavy
Tactics:
Find something bigger. it's really not worth wasting the shot unless there truely isn't anything else to shoot.
Monster hunting
wounds on a 2+ in most cases.
AP 2
Good range
Caveat
only take out one wound.
can't instant kill.
Tactics: three lascannons on one target will very well, usuall taking out two wounds a turn. [three isn't unlikely.]
TOOs [target of oppertunity]
good:
Adaptability [can take on anything with a good chance of sucsess.]
Decent range
Caveat:
Heavy. movement makes flexibility and mobility a problem. the long range takes care of this.
only makes one hit. and targets under over T5 can't be instant killed.
Good?
It has good range and decent capabilities.
Bad?
heavy and only shoots once per turn.
On tanks, mobility isn't so much as a problem. Predators are good, land raiders can pump out two lascannons a turn and still move 6".
Razorbacks are beautiful - plus they can carry an extra four lascannons, meaning that five lascannons at one target? killed mostly. plus for easy movement, it can hid them away for a turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 13:56:30
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Captain Solon wrote:
Razorbacks are beautiful - plus they can carry an extra four lascannons, meaning that five lascannons at one target? killed mostly. plus for easy movement, it can hid them away for a turn.
Wait what?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 13:59:26
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:Captain Solon wrote:
Razorbacks are beautiful - plus they can carry an extra four lascannons, meaning that five lascannons at one target? killed mostly. plus for easy movement, it can hid them away for a turn.
Wait what?
Its the new super duper Razorback, havent you heard? Comes with Av 16 all around as well
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 14:07:17
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Courageous Questing Knight
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Sorry, I've left out a bit of semantics
If you weren't sarcastic literals then you'd have realised I was refering to a devastator squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 14:17:34
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Captain Solon wrote:Sorry, I've left out a bit of semantics
If you weren't sarcastic literals then you'd have realised I was refering to a devastator squad.
I did, I just can't fathom why you'd put devastators in razorbacks when you might just as well deploy in cover and fire those lazors all game long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 14:28:15
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Also, what's the price for quad las Devs and a Lazorback? Roughly 305p without any extra bodies? I'd rather take 3 AC/LC Preds thank you...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/05 14:44:07
Subject: using a lascannon to effect. [for marines]
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Courageous Questing Knight
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I'm not suggesting it.
And I meant you can use the razorback as an extra target.
You're gonna risk a kill point so you can fire them an extra turn? I'd rather fire them for another turn.
I'd rather take a land raider then devastators. I'd rather take anything then devastators.
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