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Hi all, first time poster, long time forum browser. I was looking into picking up mini's from the Infinity/Malifaux line of models, possibly even Warmachine/Hordes, and had a question for the board about the size of the mini's compared against other lines of minis.

For anyone who has played WH40K or WHFB and gone on to play Infinity or Mailfaux how do the models stack up against each other size wise? If I take human models from the Infinity/Malifaux lines and stand them beside your regular IG Infantry or the average SM, do the figures look bigger, one range of models compared to the next?

I ask as I collect minis from all kinds of ranges (see below) simply for the look, and when I've got some wild collections I'll run a scratch built skirmish campaign, a one off battle or a little series of adventures, battling the minis from the various ranges I've got so far.

To illustrate I've got a BloodBowl team of Norse raiders teaming with some Reaper barbarians/warlords as one group, there are Mage Knight Elves partnered with Reaper elves and Silver Helms from GW while opposing them are Dark Elf Corsairs allied with Skaven and Beastmen as their beastly flesh shields as another group. I've got Skarrd figures from the Dark Age line and Chaos Marauders teamed up with Dark Eldar and some Horrorclix figures as another loosely affiliated army, and I mean side by side the figures stack up nicely, y'know? Line up a Necromunda cyborg gang next to converted Flagellants with power swords and las pistols and we're off to a rocking battle versus some Haloclix Spartans.

Now you take the Mage Knight/Heroclix/Horrorclix guys and stand 'em beside IG Infantry/Warriors of Chaos (and your average Reaper Human sized mini) and they don't really look that much out of scale. At least to me size wise they're fine, whereas if you take the plastic D&D minis beside GW minis or the Clix types the scale could be a bit off one D&D mini to the next. And the GW LotR minis just look tiny beside the average Tau/Eldar infantry soldier too, so that line I don't really collect much of after getting a few sets for War of the Ring. So I know, having found out the hard way, that just cause a mini might look awesome in print it doesn't exactly mean it'll play well especially when you've got minis from various lines battling against each other.

For another example I picked up some WoW minis to test them out but in my thoughts they're way too big to use against the Clix/GW/Reaper range unless used as Monstrous sized beasties like GW's Ogres/Minotaurs/Tyrant Warrior guys. To illustrate another line of minis I just bought, the Dark Age line standing beside the Reaper/GW/Clix minis all scale together nicely, I mean some Dark Age figs just stand a hair taller, unless of course you stand the Dark Age figure by an Ogre or Minotaur then the "human scale" figures all look nice, to me at least, when lined up side by side..

I bring up my background and scatterbox collection to illustrate I don't favor game mechanics/rules as much as the look of the minis, and browsing the range of Infinity/Malifaux/Warmachine I'm seeing lots of models I'd love to pick up and paint and use in upcoming scratchbuilt campaigns so I was hoping for a bit of assistance comparing the scales.

Like pointed out above, having a few of the Beastmen Minotaurs, OK Bulls and the WoW minis I tend to use them as "heavies" or monstrous summoned beasties to rumble with the what I would call average scale of a Cadian or an average CSM/SM. Using Reaper minis with Necromunda gangs with Eldar infantry and IG infantry, how do the Malifaux/Warmachines/Infinity line of models stack up size wise please? If I went and purchased various packs from these ranges would they fit in snug beside the minis I've already got or would they look out of place like the GW LotR line?


Below I've copied a few sets of models I'd be interested in purchasing using Miniature Market and The Warstore to get an idea of the models I'd be looking at buying/painting. If you've got any of these models that you can post comparison pics of beside Catachans/Cadians/Chaos Marauders/Dark Elf Corsairs/SM I'd greatly appreciate it. If you've got Infinity/Malifaux/WarmaHordes scale comparison pics beside each other AND GW that'd be great too, as it would go a real long way in helping me with my buying decisions. If you scan the list you'll see I'm not really going for the large models of the range, more the common footsoldier / spell slinger humanoid based/human sized figures.


WarMachine Cryx #34017 Bane Thrall Unit
Cryx #34020 Bile Thrall Unit
Cryx #34030 Revenant Pirate Crew
Mercenaries #41028 Alexia Ciannor & The Risen
Malifaux Death Marshals Box Set
Malifaux Spirits Vengeance Box
Infinity (#121) Ariadna Line Irmandinhos
Infinity (#047) Nomads Starter Pack

Also does anyone collect Elfball or have any ShadowForge Female Fantasy Football models you can compare/contrast to any of the above models? I was going to snatch up some more BloodBowl models come income tax return time, and was looking for other teams I could mash them up against.

Thank you for reading and lots of gratitude to anyone who can post scale comparison pics between the various ranges. Currently at my desk i've got a Minotaur towering over a Mage Knight Dwarf Pikeman standing beside a Dwarf Slayer, a WHFB Black Orc, AOBR Ork with choppa, and a pair of CSM's. They all stack up nicely next to another, my personal view, so again any comparison pics you can provide will be greatly appreciated as I look to expand my miniature collection in the new year.

Warhammer is sculpted in whats called 28mm heroic, Malifaux and Infinity and most other non GW lines are sculpted in actual 28mm. The GW stuff is closer to 32mm then it is to 28mm.

Yep, Infinity models are realisticall scaled. 40K models have giant cartoony limbs and hands.

So the infinity models would look somewhat anorexic beside 40K ones.

Oh man, that doesn't sound too good. So then the Malifaux/Infinity lines would be smaller, height wise, like say the LotR line from GW?

Actually i think the LOTR line is smaller then the Malifaux and Infinity lines.

That isn't so bad, if the LotR and D&D lines are the tiniest in stature, then Infinity/Malifaux looking anorexic beside the GW line isn't entirely bad. A few Reaper figs look "thin-ish" beside the GW Range, and the Skarrd minis I have from the Dark Age line aren't exactly proportion matched next to the GW guys, but heightwise they're fine.

Like for example, my main "hangup" about buying a new range from a different manufacturer is that, heightwise at least, if not body proportion wise, that the guys look about the same height standing by each other.

The GW range might be over exaggerated next to Reaper but that's fine. You look at pro athletes and stand them beside your average person and the athelte looks way bigger. Arnold Schwarzenegger looked huge back in the 80s and 90s, but then i saw him on WWF Raw with Stone cold and The Rock and Arnold was SMALL!!! next to them, in build and height.
Shaq is another BIG dude standing alongside other NBA guys, but when Shaq was in the ring posing next to Hulk Hogan on a WCW PPV he looked tiny. You put Shaq beside your average celebrity and he dwarfs them, but you put him against them giant wrestlers and he's mortal again.

So that's the eye I look with towards minis and different scales. The Reaper line, for your average elf/human model that isn't some warlord musclehead, tends to be matched nice next to an Eldar or Cadian model, in my eyes. Stacking a muscled Catachan or Ork next to them is like a body builder beside an average fit person who exercises at least 3 x a week, in my eyes. Someone healthy and lean (which I guess would include the Malifaux/Infinity range and some of the Reaper line) next to a muscle head (Ork, Catachan, Reaper musclehead) looks realistic is what i'm trying to get at. If the height is slightly off I'm not going to mind, but heightwise, the LotR line look tiny next to the other ranges so if the Inf/Mal lines are taller, then maybe they'll workout.

I hate to beg, but does anyone please have comparison pics on a desktop or table top so I can have a solid idea here. If maybe could point me/link me to a post with the scale difference side by side I'd really appreciate it, for Infinity's guys, Malifaux, and Warmachine please.

Its not the scale, its the proportions, no two minature lines are made to the same proportion.

I don't want you to take this badly, but what you do bothers the heck out of me. Model lines are ment to be used together. The very idea of takeing a D&D prepaint or a Clix model and useing it in the same train of though as a Reaper or GW mini is borderline heretical.

Has for comparision pics. Malifaux's stuff is way to varied to do a comparision, there are simply to many variables for it to actually show anything other then specific models. Warmachine......Doesnt really match up with anything...

I apologize if it bothers you, but as i pointed out, I pick and choose models from various ranges for a home made campaign that doesn't really use the "rules" or "game systems" that the models are intended for. I go by look of the model, compare it to models already within my collection, and if this box set looks like it would mesh well as allies/enemies against this group of models here, then i'll take the sets from two or more different lines and use them in a home made, homebrewed if you want, campaign that I run with family and friends.

I see your point as valid, if for example, i were going around purchasing Clix models to use as proxys for the Malifaux game system or one of the other game systems. But that isn't what I'm doing. I'm supporting various lines from different companies by buying up models for painting/converting, but for a game system totally of my (well actually my friends & I) making.

And i do agree, the work that goes into a Reaper/GW mini is far more thorough and detailed than a Clix mini, and I do appreciate the work that goes into the sculpts, but again my eye for the game system we run is comlpetely on the look of mini from Line A compared against minis from Lines B, C and G. While the Clix/D&D sculpts are inferior, more generic and bland if you want, with a paint app here and there they can mesh nicely with the far more detailed sculpts of the bigger lines.

At the end of the day, for me personally, if the minis look compatible and complement each other as allies/enemies for our game system, then that is what helps me decide what range of minis to pick and choose from.


SCOOOOOOOOOORE!!!!!!!!!! Picked up the Ortegas/Lady Justice sets to make an outlaw posse, and got the Undertaker set to match up with this little necromancer band we've got going. Can't wait to open these babies up

haha!!! got my malifaux & infinity guys in. will edit later with scale comparison pics beside the reaper/clix/gw groups. i love the detail on these guys!!!!!

thanks to everyone who helped me out. will post pics before the basecoat and completed pics of them beside their new groups

Guess I'd like to ask a mod to move this to the P&M Blog for wip please?



The much sought after scale comparison between the different ranges.

L-R
Taelor from Malifaux
A Reaper line mini
A figure from Infinity.

These are going to be found in the gallery images I'm loading. I'm working on a better camera (and much better paint job, these are a WIP please don't forget). This weekend, being a 4 day paid weekend, I'm going to add some washes and go for some green stuff conversions.

Glad you seem to have found some minaitures that work for you, you may want to experiment with the "macro" setting on your camera though. I'm a bit late to the party, but just wanted to mention that if you buy more reaper figures, you may find that some of them are more different in height than you might expect.

Catyrpelius wrote:
I don't want you to take this badly, but what you do bothers the heck out of me. Model lines are ment to be used together. The very idea of takeing a D&D prepaint or a Clix model and useing it in the same train of though as a Reaper or GW mini is borderline heretical.
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This is the silliest thing I've heard in a while and smacks of someone who has drunk deeply of the brand-advertising kool-aid. I completely agree with wanting to choose miniatures that work together well visually, but there are many ways to do this when mixing figures of various brands. My club mixes brands of figures on the tabletop quite often. We were playing a 4-way Song of Blades and Heroes game and realized that we had 6 brands of figures on the table. http://rpgdiehard.blogspot.com/2010/10/pretty-terrain-for-asong-of-blades.html

The trick is to carefully chose miniatures whose styles are compatible, and when you mix brands, try to make the differing brands, different races or classes of charachters. Or to say another way, it probably wouldn't do to mix two brands of figs in one unit of archers, but an army with different units drawn from different brands or a warband with a mage, archer, warrior and elf of different brands could look quite good.

Eilif wrote:Glad you seem to have found some minaitures that work for you, you may want to experiment with the "macro" setting on your camera though. I'm a bit late to the party, but just wanted to mention that if you buy more reaper figures, you may find that some of them are more different in height than you might expect.

Catyrpelius wrote:
I don't want you to take this badly, but what you do bothers the heck out of me. Model lines are ment to be used together. The very idea of takeing a D&D prepaint or a Clix model and useing it in the same train of though as a Reaper or GW mini is borderline heretical.
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This is the silliest thing I've heard in a while and smacks of someone who has drunk deeply of the brand-advertising kool-aid. I completely agree with wanting to choose miniatures that work together well visually, but there are many ways to do this when mixing figures of various brands. My club mixes brands of figures on the tabletop quite often. We were playing a 4-way Song of Blades and Heroes game and realized that we had 6 brands of figures on the table. http://rpgdiehard.blogspot.com/2010/10/pretty-terrain-for-asong-of-blades.html

The trick is to carefully chose miniatures whose styles are compatible, and when you mix brands, try to make the differing brands, different races or classes of charachters. Or to say another way, it probably wouldn't do to mix two brands of figs in one unit of archers, but an army with different units drawn from different brands or a warband with a mage, archer, warrior and elf of different brands could look quite good.

Yessir will definitely work on the macro, hate how blurry the pics were but then kind of happy since it covers "most" of the glaring errors. Yep also noticed not the majority of Reapers were scaling around a bit, so the overlarge ones get used as "above average height/build" while the majority are the average range if that makes sense.

And to the last paragraph that is exactly my line of thinking. Pick an archer from one range with a group of archers from another, toss in two archers from a third and you get yourself a leader, two elites and the grunts (at least that's how they get used at our table). The varying uniforms/looks, at our table, just mean different status in rank when used like that, but yeah like you said, different models different range makes for unique looking armies/stables.