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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

I want to make this a good list, so far I have 1310 points of stuff. I don't know what to add - I have 2 Hellhounds sitting around, I could throw one and Marbo in. I really don't know what to do. Help?

HQ:
Company Command Squad (Rides in Vendetta)
-4x Melta Gun
90 pts

Troops:
Veterans
-3x Meltaguns
-Chimera (Hull Heavy Flamer)
155 pts

Veterans
-3x Plasma Guns
-Chimera (Hull Heavy Flamer)
170 pts

Veterans
-3x Plasma Guns
-Chimera (Hull Heavy Flamer)
170 pts

Fast Attack:
Vendetta
130 pts

Elites:
Stormtroopers
-2x Meltagun
105 pts

Heavy Support:
Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Lascannon
165 pts

Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Lascannon
165 pts

Manticore
-Hull Heavy Flamer
160 pts

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Made in gb
Tunneling Trygon






Another vendetta and vet squad is never a bad buy.

"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson 
   
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!





I'd probably give the CCS a chimera and put one of the Vet squads in it. That way the Vendetta can carry a scoring unit.

I'd dump the stormtroopers for something else. Just about anything else.
   
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant





Salisbury md

I actually love 5x stormies with melta. Rerollable deepstrike against rear armor? How do you go wrong? That said I usually don't use them until i'm above 1500, and then I take marbo and astropath as well.

Most of the list looks good. I'd definitely add another unit of melta vets. I find I really need four troop choices at 1500, so I have enough guys for objectives. If you get another detta keep at least three vet squads in chimeras. Squads in dettas are either suicide, or are outflanking reserves. You need well armored bodies on the ground to hold objectives.

I personally find hull lascannons a waste. I never seem to hit and pen with them, plus half the time i'm shooting at infantry. Save the points and get hhf.

Frogstar 101st Mechanized Guard 
   
Made in nl
Storm Trooper with Maglight






you van take a hellhound, can be usefull that you will left 60 points
dont know what to do with it, beacause it is a good list... maybe a 4+ save at youre plasma's or all veterans?

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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

Ugh, I don't have another Vendetta. What I have (Pretty Much)
10 Kasrkins (can be Stormtroopers or vets)
42 normal lasgunners
6 Plasmagunners
8 Meltagunners
4-6 flamers
4 grenade launchers
8 sniper guardsmen
command squad
10 ratlings
1 basilisk
1 manticore
2 hellhounds/variants
1 vendetta
2 vanilla LRBT
1 LR Demolisher
3 Chimeras
Marbo
3 Heavy Weapons Squads (3 Heavy Weapons each)

Barring new acquisitions, what should I field? Is the 4x Melta CCS in a detta any good?

For future references, what should I pick up? Would another Vendetta and Chimera be good?

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Made in gb
Tunneling Trygon






Take another vet squad and chimera, (either melta or plasma according to choice) from the models you have.

"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson 
   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

@ruminator: The list is all the models I have, not what I have left over. I should have specified that. Anyway, here's an updated list.

HQ:
Company Command Squad
-3x Plasma Gun
-Chimera (Hull Heavy Flamer)
150 pts

Troops:
Veterans
-3x Meltaguns
-Chimera (Hull Heavy Flamer)
155 pts

Veterans
-3x Plasma Guns
-Chimera (Hull Heavy Flamer)
170 pts

Veterans
-3x Melta Guns
100 pts

Fast Attack:
Vendetta
130 pts

Hellhound
-Smoke Launchers
-Hull Heavy Flamer
135 pts

Elites:
Stormtroopers
-2x Meltagun
105 pts

Marbo
65 pts

Heavy Support:
Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Lascannon
165 pts

Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Lascannon
165 pts

Manticore
-Hull Heavy Flamer
160 pts

I would love to have added another veteran squad, but I am out of transports. :(
So Marbo and the Hellhound are getting tried out....unless you guys have another idea. I would also do another plasmagun on the CCS, but I don't have the model. I'm considering putting 4x melta on the CCS again, if I do, I won't have a scoring suicide unit in the Vendetta, it is simply suicide.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/07 17:33:09


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Deadshot Weapon Moderati





Rochdale (GW Manchester)

stormies are good. They are pretty mkuch anti space marine - normally the only anti space marine guard get is a russ.

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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

The Acolyte wrote:stormies are good. They are pretty mkuch anti space marine - normally the only anti space marine guard get is a russ.


Well, you use them as a suicide AT unit. A S3 gun, even though AP3, is not prime anti-MEQ material. Now, if it were S4.....

Anyway, back on topic. Is one suicide unit enough?

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Made in us
Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant





Salisbury md

Only thing I would change on last list is drop the hull LC's and hellhound for third vet unit, but if that's not an option it's not an option.

Is this for friendly games or competitive. If friendly just proxy hell hound for chimera.

Otherwise stormies are great anti tank troops. Rerollable deepstrikes for rear armor melta hits. Happy.

Marbo is best suicide unit in game. 65 points gives you possibility of killing an entire termie squad.

Frogstar 101st Mechanized Guard 
   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

Yeah, it's not an option. I'll try my list out tomorrow and see where it goes.

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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

I tried out the list today - It curbstomed some Nids, but got decimated by a Tau list (I had ludicrously bad luck).

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Dakka Veteran





Alexandria, VA

yey. tough luck against the tau. chimeras fall to the plasmarifle/and up, while your vendetta/manticore/russes were prime candidates for a railgun.
   
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle




Johannesburg, South Africa

Looks like quite a nice and fun list. Bad luck on the Tau.

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Mighty Gouge-Horn




Well congrats on rhe win, sorry for the loss those are the ones who hurt most, when you loose due to dice instead of your army.

As far as what I would add to expand from here. I would look at 2 chimera's and a vendetta.

The chimera's you can use them either with a CCS, Vet squad or PBS.

Vendetta same as above except for the PSB.

My personal fav setup for HQ is:

CCS- 4xPG, PP, OotF, (sometimes carapace if I have spare points) in a chimera. Ends up being 185-215 depending on load out, but it is a lot of fire power. My second HQ is always,

CCS- 4xMG, rides in a vendetta.

Good luck.

Grix
   
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





San Diego, California

rryannn wrote:yey. tough luck against the tau. chimeras fall to the plasmarifle/and up, while your vendetta/manticore/russes were prime candidates for a railgun.


Funny thing was, the Railguns killed a Russ on the (6th?) turn and a Vendetta. A SMS killed a chimera. I mostly had atrocious luck while he had amazing luck - he exploded my Vendetta and killed all but a meltagunner from who was inside it. Stuff like that.

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