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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 02:08:00
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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An additional Fast Attack entry for C: Grots... Without further ado... Gun runners, or Gun Runnas as the Grots call themselves, are a special breed of gretchin whose legs are specifically built for short rapid sprints, as well as leaping great heights. These "Gun Runnas" are capable of ducking and weaving between cover with ease, and are able bound over otherwise impossible terrain. Because of this, their armor is generally light, and often times choose small portable weaponry able to lay down a light hail of rounds before charging effortlessly into battle. With quick reflexes, and lightning fast strikes, these gretchin are some of the more feared opponents amongst the Imperium of Man, due to the destructive variety of grenades they employ. Generally outriders of a Gretchin invasion, they excel at destroying enemy entrenchments and supply lines, as well as strapping high explosives to vehicles while vaulting over them. These Gretchin however, are rather small and feeble even compared to other Grots, relying on their speed and guile to destroy their enemies. If they cannot destroy their target, they often flee, disbanding quickly into the smallest nearby cavity they can find... Gretchin Gun Runna Squad: Fast Attack...9 Pts. Base. Size: 10-20 Gretchin Gun Runnas Unit Type: Infantry Wargear: Grot Slicas, 'Ledda 'Arma, Grot Shoota, GrotNades! Gretchin Gun Runna WS: 3 BS: 2 S: 2(3) T: 2 W: 1 I: 3(4) A: 3 LD: 7 Sv:6+ GrotNades!: Often a blend of toxins, explosions, and noise, Gun Runnas tend to throw these into the fray before they enter, disorienting their foes quickly, leaving them more open for an attack. Gretchin Gun Runnas count as being equipped with Assault Grenades, Melta bombs, and gain +1 to initiative(included in profile) the turn they charge into combat. Special Rules: Mob Rule, Leaps 'n Bounds, Hit and Run, Fleet Leaps 'n Bounds: Such is the nature of these Gretchin that they are always where they should not be able to go. Gliding through cover, under and over all obstacles quickly and efficiently, these Gretchin are masters of movement. Gretchin Gun Runnas have the "Move through Cover" USR, in addition, they treat all impassable terrain as dangerous terrain. Option: One Gretchin Per Gun Runna squad may take a Power Klaw(resolved at S4)...15 Pts. Concerns? Think I gave them too much?
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2011/01/08 02:37:18
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 09:11:16
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Kovnik
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I like the idea, gives them a good harrasing unit
Although infiltrate for the out flank is also a good idea IMO, since they often pop up when least expected, and outflanking grotz with melta bombs seem a reasonable way to torture your local gunline guard player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 10:48:44
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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I like it but what do the Grot Slicas, 'Ledda 'Arma, Grot Shoota do ?
And loose the mob rule, grots dont realy think like that especialy whan they're running as fast as they can through cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 11:21:14
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Lord of the Fleet
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I think they're pretty good. They're not overpowered or anything considering they're S2 with a 6+ save, although getting 30 of them to Infiltrate with all of them out of sight would be a challenge!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 04:20:02
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I think I'd lower the points cost on the Power Klaw.
It's normally 15 points for Orks because they're going up to Str 6.
For Gretchin it isn't as strong, so I'd make it 10 or 5 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 17:36:49
Subject: Re:UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Fixture of Dakka
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+2S? 10pts for the PK. 20 grots per unit? such an outrider unit would only have like max. of 10 IMO. They are, in effect, freerunning grots with grendades, -1T and +1I. I say either give them infiltrate or make them 7pts per model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 19:05:08
Subject: Re:UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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These little dudes sound fun, i wish theywere in the codex!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:22:25
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Shrike, you want them T1? Infiltrate sounds good, and lowering of the PK cost is fine. The 20 Gretchin cap is due to the fact that all gretchin have an instinct to band together in large groups for protection. This can be seen even in Killa Kanz, where, even though the Grot is armored in thick plates, it still wants to be with other Gretchin for protection. I don't want them to be as fast as Space Marines, as they are only Gretchin, even if they are a special mutation.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/01/10 21:23:42
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:28:46
Subject: Re:UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I don't want them T1, go I4. they are really fast- fast enough to match a marine at speed.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:36:44
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Tunneling Trygon
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20 melta bombs running towards one of your tanks...
Not a fun thought...
Apart from that i'm liking the look of these Sneaky Sods!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:42:52
Subject: Re:UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Fixture of Dakka
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/10 21:57:56
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Exactly, them getting shot at is going to happen, and their death is innevitable. 20 Melta bombs running at your tank is something your going to shoot at. Especially if you have a bunch of rhinos that need to go somewhere... *Tank shock* *BOOM!!!* Besides that, are you saying to make them I4 base? Then tack on the +1 Initiative? Or no +1 Initiative? EDIT: Valk! I didn't notice you with your new profile picture!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/10 22:00:41
Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 18:10:59
Subject: UPDATED: Gretchin Gun Runnas!
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Hilarious harassing unit. 20 melta bombs, running at you from no-where.. *shudders.*
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