Terminator armies without bitz ordering?

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**daemon**

Any termie armies that i can do without special ordering? I wanted to do loganwing but i have no access to power swords or cyclone launchers. Any ideas?

**UltraPrime**

Power Swords and Cyclone Launchers come in the standard Termy set. Buy a box of Wolf Guard Termys nd standard, mix and match to make them all Wolfy, and thats 2 Troop choices right there.

**Destrado**

I think that the Space Wolf Terminators would be the best place to look for. The Space Marine Terminator box only has one power weapon AFAIK, the Assault Termies only have TH/SS and Lightning Claws.

For every SW Termie box, you've got 2/3 thunderhammers, 4 or 5 Lightning Claws (in pairs), and two power weapons (actually I think one is a frost axe, but it'll probably pass as a power weapon).

You could convert some of the "free" arms (some of the arms come with separate hands) to hold more weapons - just get some Space Marine power weapons. As for the Cyclone... either bits ordering, or a box of regular termies. It'll also give you another assault cannon and heavy flamer, plus you've got a lot of spares from the SW Termies to kit them out.

If you don't mind converting/mixing other stuff, there's another power weapon in the Dark Angels Veteran Sprue, along with an extra set of Terminator legs (for which I have no torso, sadly - still haven't found a box with an extra one) and another assault cannon - but mind you, these are DA themed.

Hope this was helpful in any way.

**purplefood**

If you have the SW normal box set or simply a few spare axes, you can make the thunderhammers into axes by cutting off the front part of the hammer and replacing it with an axe head. Also it says power weapons, this cn take the form of anything from the sword and axe in the box or a mace or just a big stick... though the big stick would be hard to explain.

**daemon**

Oh i actually just realised doing that would relieve any needs of special ordering besides a few melta packs from GW. That'd be kind of expensive though since they are 10 dollars for 5 and i only need the barrels. I was planning on using this list. I got it off a site.

Logan Grimnar
Wolf Guard Squad:
Wolf Guard 1: Terminator Armour, Storm Shield
Wolf Guard 2: Terminator Armour, Combi-Melta
Wolf Guard 3: Terminator Armour, Chainfist
Wolf Guard 4: Terminator Armour, Combi-Melta
+ Drop Pod with Deathwind

Njal Stormcaller
x 3 Wolf Guard Squads:
Wolf Guard 1: Terminator Armour, Storm Shield
Wolf Guard 2: Terminator Armour, Combi-Melta
Wolf Guard 3: Terminator Armour, Chainfist
Wolf Guard 4: Terminator Armour, Combi-Melta, Wolf Claw
Wolf Guard 5: Terminator Armour, Cyclone

Automatically Appended Next Post:
that=mixing boxes. I wrote the post slower than the responses.

**Destrado**

Why not make your own list?

Thunderhammers + SS are too cool to pass on Space Wolves

**purplefood**

Thunderhammer-SS are more points on a Wolfguard terminator than a vanilla assault terminator... though naked Wolguard terminators are cheaper so go figure.

**Destrado**

I wasn't arguing over points cost (they're 10 points or so more expensive, isn't it?), just that I'd take TH/SS Wolf Guard over their vanilla equivalent because the kit is so lovingly good. Unfortunately they saw a rise from 24 to 30 euros where I buy them, so a 2nd squad is postponed.

But I absolutely loved building the first one, so many options, so many leftover bits it's not even fair. I wish all SM kits were like that.

EDIT: Isn't the basic TDA WG cheaper because of the power weapon? I don't have the 'dexes at hand, so thanks

**purplefood**

Normal WG termies are about 7 points cheaper.
TH-SS WG termies are aout 13 points more.
The SW and SW WG kits are some of my favorites. Though the WG kit costs a bomb.

**Destrado**

I see, thanks for the comparison.

About the kit... at least they've got nearly everything in there. A couple of combi-weapons would've been gold (and a Cyclone M. Launcher), but the kit is good (or was) value for money. The downside is you can't really give everyone power-weapons out of the box, but then again the wolf claws are cheap enough.

I gave mine two power fists (and one of these got the AssCan), two TH/SS, and one with a Power Sword. Probably not the best loadout, but I went with the "looks cool".

**purplefood**

Destrado wrote:I see, thanks for the comparison.

About the kit... at least they've got nearly everything in there. A couple of combi-weapons would've been gold (and a Cyclone M. Launcher), but the kit is good (or was) value for money. The downside is you can't really give everyone power-weapons out of the box, but then again the wolf claws are cheap enough.

I gave mine two power fists (and one of these got the AssCan), two TH/SS, and one with a Power Sword. Probably not the best loadout, but I went with the "looks cool".

I managed to make a 500 point Loganwing...
2 units of 3, 1 has a powerfist and the other has dual Wolf Claws and Logan Grimnar. So far i have lost every battle but one at 500 points.

**DarknessEternal**

purplefood wrote:
TH-SS WG termies are aout 13 points more.

23.

**Destrado**

purplefood wrote:
2 units of 3, 1 has a powerfist and the other has dual Wolf Claws and Logan Grimnar. So far i have lost every battle but one at 500 points.

From what I understand, they'll be hard pressed in smaller points because Logan alone is half the army. But it still sounds like a fun army to play

**Alphapod**

The Dark Angel's Deathwing can actually work for this too. They default to the power fists, so you can use readily-available AoBR Terminators for a lot of the army. Belial is a good bit cheaper than Logan pointwise, but AFAIK you have to make your own model for him (or at least I did). The main issue for Deathwing is that they have the old Storm Shields (4++ and only in Close Combat) and their Land Raiders have the old PotMS (BS 2). And BTW I don't know space wolves but can you deploy in squads smaller than 5?

**Destrado**

Yes, Wolf Guard have a minimum squad-size of 3, though you need 5 for one heavy weapon.

**MechaEmperor7000**

Deathwing has more restrictive unit sizes (exactly 5, no more no less). and generally weaker stuff. They have relatively normal SM prices however, while still being able to take reasonably priced mixed weapons squads.