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HQ
Lucius the eternal

Deamon prince
wings
mark of slaanesh
lash of submission

Elite
5 terminators
1x champion
1x chain fist
1x power first
1x heavy flamer

Troops
10x chaos marines
champion
glory icon
1x power weapon
1x meltagun
1x missile launcher
meltaboms
rhino transport

10x chaos marines
champion
glory icon
1x power weapon
meltaboms
1x autocannon
1x meltagun
rhino transport

5x noise marines
noise champion
personal icon
power weapon
doom siren
meltaboms
3x sonic blasters
1x blast master
rhino

Fast attack
10x raptors
meltaboms
meltagun
power fist


heavy support
3x obliterators

Don't like the ML and the AC on the CSM squads. Take 2 meltas instead if you want to stay with 10 CSM squads. I would replace the meltabombs and the Power Weapon with a Power First, but YMMV.

I would replace the 5 Terminators with 2 squads of 3 Terminators.

The blastmaster costs too much, replace it with another sonicblaster.
Also, it would be hard to hide the DP, your opponent won't have any difficulty to kill it, I would either take 2 DP or replace the DP with a Lash sorcerer.

Something like this would be better :

Lucius 160
Chaos Sorcerer with MoS, Wings, Lash 145
3 Terminators with 2 combi-flamers, HF 115
3 Terminators with 2 combi-flamers, HF 115
10 CSM with 2 meltas, Champion with PF, IoCG, Rhino 255
10 CSM with 2 meltas, Champion with PF, IoCG, Rhino 255
5 NM with 4 sonicblasters, Champion with Power Weapon, Doom Siren and Meltabombs, Personal Icon, Rhino 210
1 Obliterator 75
1 Obliterator 75
1 Obliterator 75

1480

Play smart with the Noise Marines, as they are a good target.

Rosarius wrote:Don't like the ML and the AC on the CSM squads. Take 2 meltas instead if you want to stay with 10 CSM squads. I would replace the meltabombs and the Power Weapon with a Power First, but YMMV.

I would replace the 5 Terminators with 2 squads of 3 Terminators.

The blastmaster costs too much, replace it with another sonicblaster. the reason for sonicblaster is the way i play i prefer every squad in my army to have a decent anti armour weapon, especially one with a 48" range lol
Also, it would be hard to hide the DP, your opponent won't have any difficulty to kill it, I would either take 2 DP or replace the DP with a Lash sorcerer. this isnt a huge issue, my local gaming store 40k table is loaded with buildings
Something like this would be better :

Lucius 160
Chaos Sorcerer with MoS, Wings, Lash 145 for the extra 10 pts, i think i could get alot more use out of a DP
3 Terminators with 2 combi-flamers, HF 115
3 Terminators with 2 combi-flamers, HF 115 and why 2 squads of 3 termies? :S
10 CSM with 2 meltas, Champion with PF, IoCG, Rhino 255
10 CSM with 2 meltas, Champion with PF, IoCG, Rhino 255
5 NM with 4 sonicblasters, Champion with Power Weapon, Doom Siren and Meltabombs, Personal Icon, Rhino 210
1 Obliterator 75
1 Obliterator 75
1 Obliterator 75

1480

Play smart with the Noise Marines, as they are a good target.

According to some tournament players, a good army has to be balanced. Balance means that you need a tool to deal with every situation.

long range fire : obliterators
mid range fire : meltas, sonicblasters, combi-flamers, HF
coutercharge : PF, Noise Marines, Lucius
disruption : sorcerer

2 Squads of 3 DSing Termicides could improve your "disruption" and "anti-horde" ability. If you think you don't have enought anti-vehicles, replace these flamers with combi-meltas.

5 Terminators are less effective when DSing and easily avoidable on foot.

I dunno, i get what you mean, i guess to me 3 termies per squad just seems like it would be overwhelmed too easily..

would you suggest any alternatives to termies around the same points value? they seem like a big hassle without a LR as a taxi

More obliterators or maybe another Noise Marines squad?

Daemon Princes should come in pairs or else it's going to get torrented and die, quickly. You want lash take a Sorcerer.

Terminators don't need a Champion. Switch the power fist for another chain fist and get some combi weapons in there.

Both CSM units are messed up. CSM Champions are expensive, don't bother for what return you get. Having a short ranged anti tank weapon like a meltagun and long range light armour anti troop weapon like the autocannon is bad weapon synergy. The melta needs to get close so the Rhino will be on the move, you cannot fire heavy weapons once a vehicle has moved.

Meh Noise Marines, over costed. Better taking normal CSM with MoS.

Raptors are better in 5 man units with meltaguns to deep strike and be a suicide unit.

Obliterators are cool but multiple units are better.