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What I would like to know and it's something that comes up regularly is when a unit is considered in base contact.

Can my opponent single out Ghazghkull in assault if there is 1 row of nobz infront of him ? Or 2 rows for that matter ?

Or does base contact really mean, bases standing toe-to-toe with each other?

No they can't, basescontact means that their bases need to touch. Since he's an IC, he can't be targeted (and can't target any of them either so it's kind of useless iirc).

Base to base means just that. The two models bases must be in contact with each other.

I'm sure that "base contact" is defined in the rulebook as being within 2 inches of the model in question? Will check

ZepherZealot257 wrote:I'm sure that "base contact" is defined in the rulebook as being within 2 inches of the model in question? Will check

No, base contact is base contact. I guess what you're referring to is in the answer to the "who can fight?" question, basically everyone within 2 inches of someone in base contact can attack in CC.

That does not apply to IC's though.

ZepherZealot257 wrote:I'm sure that "base contact" is defined in the rulebook as being within 2 inches of the model in question? Will check

Nope, you're thinking of "engaged" - which itself states that you are within 2" of a friendly model from YOUR unit that is in BTB with an enemy model

Base to base means EXACTLY that. Your base must touch theirs

So it states that an IC can never be singled out in CC then? So there is no real point in charging him behind the nobz then. For some reason we've been playing you could

JuicedGuns wrote:So it states that an IC can never be singled out in CC then? So there is no real point in charging him behind the nobz then. For some reason we've been playing you could

no, it states he can't be singled out if no enemy is in base contact, not that he can never be singled out. and charging him behind the nobz, you still have to make a best effort movement to get him into base contact with an enemy model, which seems likely to occur after pile-in moves take place.

To expand:

For a unit to fight in close combat, at least one model from that unit MUST be in base contact with the enemy. Any models in base contact may fight, as many any models within 2" of those models from their own unit which are in base contact.

However, FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAKING AND RESOLVING ATTACKS IN CLOSE COMBAT, Independent Characters, even if attached to a unit, function AS IF they were a separate unit. So that means the character himself must be in contact with the enemy to fight or be attacked at all.

Mann has it spot on.

You CAN single ICs out, however you MUST be in base contact with them in order to do so.

The flip side is that, because of the exact same rule they dont get to fight unless THEY are in base contact with an enemy model.

nosferatu1001 wrote:You CAN single ICs out, however you MUST be in base contact with them in order to do so.

...or within 2" of another model in your own unit which IS in base contact, AS WELL as not yourself being in base contact with any other enemy model (in which case you must attack that unit).

They did make 5th the caveat king for combat, didnt they!

Yup, Mann is correct, again. Not sure why I bother

Hey, us rules-fanatics cover the gaps for each other.

Mannahnin wrote:To expand:

For a unit to fight in close combat, at least one model from that unit MUST be in base contact with the enemy. Any models in base contact may fight, as many any models within 2" of those models from their own unit which are in base contact.

However, FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAKING AND RESOLVING ATTACKS IN CLOSE COMBAT, Independent Characters, even if attached to a unit, function AS IF they were a separate unit. So that means the character himself must be in contact with the enemy to fight or be attacked at all.

That explained things perfectly, thanks alot!