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Hey guys, with the update to the gear of the Dark Angels Codex to the quality found in the Vanilla marine codex, I am thinking about trying out a legit DA list again (something I haven't really done since 3rd edition). I am having some issues with the last 200ish points, so I am looking for some suggestions.

HQ
Ezekiel, Grand Master of Librarians - 170
Belial, Master of the Deathwing (w/TH+SS) -130

Troops
Deathwing Terminator Squad - Sergeant w/Chainfist+Heavy Flamer, Apothecary w/TH+SS, Standard Bearer w/TH+SS, 2x TH+SS -280

(Deathstar unit riding in the Land Raider Crusader)

Deathwing Terminator Squad - Sergeant w/Chainfist+Storm Bolter, 1x TH/SS/CML, 3x TH/SS - 240

Deathwing Terminator Squad - Sergeant w/Chainfist+Storm Bolter, 1x TH/SS/CML, 3x TH/SS - 240

(One will deploy on an objective, the other with Deathwing Assault to get side shots, or take down isolated light targets; or just come in close to the first)

Heavy Support
Vindicator w/Dozer Blade -130
Vindicator w/Dozer Blade -130
Land Raider Crusader w/Extra Armour - 265

Fast Attack
Ravenwing Support Speeder w/Typhoon Missile Launcher+Multi-Melta -75
Ravenwing Support Speeder w/Typhoon Missile Launcher+Multi-Melta -75
Ravenwing Support Speeder w/Typhoon Missile Launcher+Multi-Melta -75


This ends up leaving me with 190 points (200 if I drop the Dozer Blades, 215 if I drop Dozer Blades and Extra Armour).
Now, I love having Ezekiel, mostly for his psychic protection and general badassery, but also because he is among my favorite models. However, I was suggested to include a Chaplain of some stripe with the Deathstar unit, possibly an Interrogator-Chaplain in Terminator Armour, though that only saves me about 25 points and drops my psychic protection. Doing that, and dropping all the vehicle upgrades I can squeeze in another terminator squad.
Or, I can drop him to a regular chaplain and keep the vehicle upgrades and take some small upgrades (Melta Bombs, Plasma Pistol, HK Missile, etc.)

Other options include:

-Triple Lascannon Predator and a minor upgrade or 2.
-Venerable Dread w/LC+ML and a minor upgrade or 2.
-3 more speeders with multi-meltas for my speeder teams (would need to drop a chain fist or dozer blade)
-Dev team with 4 time Missile Launchers
-Tac Squad for objective squatting or something (no bawx)

Any other decent ideas? None of these seem great, though I think the pred or dread are better then the other 3.

Find points for another troop choice. 15 terminators isn't going to cut it more than likely. Every single DA/DW list I've got has minimum 20 and mostly 25 termies to ensure scorability. Personally with a list like that I'd probably drop the Vindi's and turn them into Dreads and drop the extra amor and boom, troop #4. Just my personal style though.

Yeah, I saw your style from the list you posted in the FAQ thread (or really, not a list, but idea for a list). It's not really my style though and is not logistically feasible for me anytime soon (I don't have ANY pods, and my [Metal] Dreads aren't built in ways that are effective for pods). I agree with the Troop requirements, though you do have to consider how much more survivable they got with this update. I still think 4 groups would be nice though. Hmmm.

Drop the vindies. the landraider, and ezekiel. Then add more terminators. Matter in fact, drop the speeders too, and add more terminators haha.

I don't know about that, lol

But I did cut Ezekiel for a standard Chaplain with Melta Bombs and added a 4th terminator squad. I think I will play with that list and see how I like it. I hate to see Ezekiel go, but having the 4th squad is probably going to be more significant.
I might bring him back if I play at points levels higher then this though, lol.

Ezekiel is not that great, IMO. A regular libby in terminator armor with an infinite range psychic hood will serve you better.

I disagree, the extra wound, the extra point of leadership and the mastercrafting of his force weapon are worth the 25 points. I do agree the lack of the 5++ is a negative, but against any ID attacks I can resort to Force Shield.
Regardless, he was cut.