Lesser Court of Young Kings Eldar Army. 1500 points

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**MechaEmperor7000**

I made a thread about a Great Court of Young King Eldar army (basically one of each of the Aspects) a while back, but wasnt really able to fund it seeing as the models are all metal (except for the DAs, but they were a small chunk). Recently I was able to come into a bunch of old 3rd ed Aspect Warriors that some dude was selling for 1-2 bucks a piece. Managed to get myself 10 Banshee,s 5 Fire Dragons (one is an exarch, but he doesnt have the fire pike, so he can represent a normal FD) 5 Dark Reapers and 7 Striking Scorpions (someone apparently bought 2 normal ones, and the 8th one he had was a second exarch).

I hope to base this as much on the Court of Young Kings unit from the Codex: Craftworld Eldar book as much as possible, so this means that the Striking Scorpions, Dire Avengers, Howling Banshees, and Fire Dragons are all manditory units (since those are the only ones present inthe Court of Young Kings). I have three Wraithlords, 2 weapon platforms, 2 falcons and the Dark Reapers for heavy support, and I'm actually leaning more towards the Wraithlords to fill out the gaps in my firepower. The Avatar is obviously present and must remain.

My main opponents are another Eldar Player (main threats include his own Aspect Warriors, single Wraith Lord nad two Fire prisms), Space Marines (Mechmarines with Terminators), Imperial Guard (gunline), Orks (Nob Bikerz) and Necrons (do I need to explain this one?). We rarely play by any rules other than Annhilation, so the army's main purpose will be tabling enemy forces rather than claim objectives. I'm going for a retro-style for the aspect warriors, so I might not be able to come into any more Fire Dragons or Striking Scorpions, so keep that in mind.

HQ:

Avatar - 155pts

Elites:

Striking Scorpions (7) - Exarch, Scorpion's Claw, Shadow Strike - 159
Fire Dragons (5) - Wave Serpent, Twin-linked Shuriken Cannons - 180
Howling Banshees (10) - Exarch, Executioner, Wave Serpent, Twin-linked Shuriken Cannons - 282

Troops:

Dire Avengers (10) - Exarch, Diresword and Shuriken Pistol, Bladestorm - 157
Dire Avengers (10) - Exarch, Diresword and Shuriken Pistol, Bladestorm - 157

Heavy Support:

Wraithlord - Bright Lance - 130 pts
Wraithlord - Eldar Missile launcher - 115pts
Wraithlord - Eldar Missile launcher - 115pts

Total: 1450 points

I have 50 I have no idea where to spend it on. Any suggestions are greatly welcomed.

**rodgers37**

I'm not an Eldar expert so feel free to ignore me (Although i am taking Eldar to Throne of Skulls next weekend

But duel Jetseers......)

I like your army, but i don't know how effective it would be.... I suppose with your whole court of Young Kings idea, you can't/shouldn't/don't want to change it too much.

If you just wanted to spend your extra points, give the wave serpents Spirit Stones, and the Wraithlords swords....

But, I think Dire Avengers are better with the exarch having duel shuriken.
The main problem i see, is that you would be better with two of one of your elites... Although all 3 are nice choices on their own, i think your whole list would improve by having either 2 squads of Fire Dragons or 2 squads of Scorpians (dropping either Scorpions or Banshees)

But without taking away your 'fluffyness' there probably isn't much that can be done...

**MechaEmperor7000**

I actually might not be able to get more Scorpions nor Dragons, the lot I happened upon had an excess of banshees (the guy still has another 10-20 or so). However I can possibly drop one of them for another unit. The Banshees are largely there to handle the inevitable MEQ and Terminators (one of my friends runs ALOT of terminators). However if I can get some more Fire Dragons, I will probably run them in lieu of the Banshees, mainly because the MEQ player also runs Dreadnoughts.

The main things I can take away points from are the Wraithlords. They are the only things in the list that are not fluffy. Would a Guide/Doom Seer be good for riding up with the banshees?

**rodgers37**

A doom seer does work very well with Banshees!!

**MechaEmperor7000**

I'm currently in the process of writting another list. I'm heading over to the store tomorrow to see if I can nab some more Dark Reapers or other aspect warriors (namely, more Fire Dragons) for the army. Currently dropping the Wraithlords entirely due to wanting to focus on the Aspect Warriors, although if there are good comments made about them, I'll put them back in.

This is the current shape of the list:

HQ:

Avatar - 155pts
Farseer - Runes of Witnessing, Doom - 90

Elites:

Striking Scorpions (7) - Exarch, Scorpion's Claw, Shadow Strike - 159
Fire Dragons (5) - Wave Serpent, Twin-linked Shuriken Cannons - 180
Howling Banshees (10) - Exarch, Executioner, Wave Serpent, Twin-linked Shuriken Cannons - 282

Troops:

Dire Avengers (10) - Exarch, Two Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm - 152
Dire Avengers (10) - Exarch, Two Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm - 152

Total: 1160pts

There are roughly 340 points needing allocation. I'm thinking of taking 10 Dark Reapers in two units to fill out some MEQ busting (as well as deal with stuff like Necrons, enemy wraithlords, and the likes). As for the extra 10 points, I'm sure I can trim it from somewhere.

**Squig_herder**

A new list based on what you have and what you might be getting, I have bolded changes and additions to the list and it sits at 1494

Avatar - 155pts
Farseer - Runes of Witnessing, Doom - 90

Elites:

Striking Scorpions (6) - Exarch, Scorpion's Claw, Shadow Strike - 143
Fire Dragons (5) - Wave Serpent, Twin-linked Bright Lance - 215
Howling Banshees (10) - Exarch, Executioner, Wave Serpent, Twin-linked Bright Lance - 317

Troops:

Dire Avengers (9) - Exarch, Two Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm - 140
Dire Avengers (9) - Exarch, Two Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm - 140

Heavy Support
3 Dark Reapers, exarch, EML and Fast Shot - 147
3 Dark Reapers, exarch, EML and Fast Shot - 147
Total: 1494pts

Edit: Forgot to add +12 for exarch on dark reapers

**MechaEmperor7000**

That looks pretty solid. However the Eldar Missile Launchers might not be possible. As I'm largely using 3rd ed models, it would mean heavy conversion with the Dark Reaper Exarch (who has a Shuriken Cannon, and that one's kinda hard to change into a EML). Worse comes to worse, I'll purchase the new exarch to fill the role.

**rodgers37**

I don't think you need the EML on the Dark Reapers, i think they are nice without it....

**Squig_herder**

Until you have the money or time to buy/convert the EML on your Dark Reaper Exarch, can you just tell your opponent that it counts as an EML? or are you play WYSIWYG?

Now hopefully between 2 twin-linked bright lance shots and 4 krak EML shots a turn, you should be able to deal with most armies armour.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

rodgers37 wrote:I don't think you need the EML on the Dark Reapers, i think they are nice without it....

The reason I added the EML is for dealing with massed armour, with 2 S8 AP3 per reaper squad you can deal with armour easier, other wise he will have to rely on either suiciding the dragons or just the 2 bright lances to deal with armour from a distance. Plus the EML can also shoot 2 S4 small blast templats to kill GEQ

**MechaEmperor7000**

What if I can get my hands on more Scorpions? I'm kinda iffy on outflanking with only 6.

Also, checking again, I only got 4 Dark Reapers, 1 of which is an exarch.

EDIT: In addition, since there's 6 points free, I'll give the Howling Banshee Exarch the Acrobat Exarch power. That way her squad wont be caught completely off guard when they disembark from the Wave Serpent.

**Squig_herder**

Using what you have or can get easily have made a mech list and a foot slogging list:

Mech List (1500 on the dot)

HQ
Avatar
155

Elites
5 Fire Dragons
Wave Serpent
-TL EML
200

10 Banshees
-exarch
-executioner
-War shout
-Acrobat
Wave Serpent
-TL EML
312

7 Striking Scorpions
-exarch
-Scorpion's claw
-Shadowstrike
159

Troop
6 Dire Avengers
-exarch
-duel pults
-Bladestorm
104

6 Dire Avengers
-exarch
-duel pults
-Bladestorm
104

7 Dire Avengers
-exarch
-duel pults
-Bladestorm
116

Heavy Support
1 Falcon
-Holofields
-Starcannon
175

1 Falcon
-Holofields
-Starcannon
175

The idea behind this list is that the court is on the move, taking the fight to the enemy. The 2 6 man dire avengers will ride in the 2 falcons, while they sit back and blast everything to pieces with the wave serpents and then objective grab in the last 1-2 turns of the game. The scorpions will infiltrate. The fire dragons will run p to a hard to kill tank and jump out and kill it (like a land raider) and maybe live to kill another tank while either wave serpent goes back to pick up the 7 man dires and keep them safe. The avatar will hung cover and draw fire away from the tanks and fleet to the biggest threat and crush it, maybe shoot a tank or 2 and kill them.

Foot slogging [1497]:

HQ
Avatar
155

Farseer
guide
runes of warding
90

Elites
5 Fire Dragons
Wave Serpent
TL EML
200

8 Banshees
exarch
executioner
Warshout
Wave Serpent
TL EML
275

7 Striking Scorpions
1 exarch
Scorpion's claw
Shadowstrike
159

Troops
8 Dire Avengers
Exarch
Duel Pults
Bladestorm
158

10 Guardians
EML
Warlock
Embolden
130

10 Guardians
EML
Warlock
Embolden
130

Heavy Support
Wraithlord
EML
115

Wraithlord
EML
115

In this list the court have just come down to settlement that has been attacked and they are fighting them off. The idea here is to have a wall of Wraighlords and the avatar marching up the front, shooting what they can and then crushing what they want in close combat. The same plan as before with the scorpions and the fire dragons. The howling banshees just pick off isolated targets and then hope back into their transport. The guardians can advance behind the wall or sit in cover and then fleet to objectives late in the game, same with the dires.

**MechaEmperor7000**

I prefer the first list. However the Falcons dont really grab me. While I'm willing to use them for a list, I've been told that they're rather unreliable and somewhat useless for their point cost.

**Squig_herder**

It really depends on how you use them. They have holofields, making the enemy roll 2 dice when rolling on the damage chart and pick the lowest, increasing their survivability, plus a S8 AP2 Heavy 2 plus S6 AP2 Heavy 2, these are best used at range and are good for killing medium tank and transports and are fantastic at killing terminators.

In my opinion, falcons are great, plus they hide your fragile units in until you really need them. YMMV but I think they are a solid tank.

**MechaEmperor7000**

I'll go with the first list then. I just need to drum up a few extra Starcannons. If I can get more Scorpions, Reapers or Fire Dragons, are there any modifications you'd recommend?

**Squig_herder**

If you feel like the holofields aren't needed, you could drop both holofields, change the starcannons on the falcons to EML and drop the 7 man dire squad to 5 and that should be 116 worth of points to spare.

You could drop acrobat for an extra 5 taking it to 121. But I think the list as it is, is fine. Try play testing it before making heaps of changes.

**MechaEmperor7000**

k. I just need to make a few more purchases first.

**Squig_herder**

Write up a battle report and post it here on dakka when you get a game in with the list.

**MechaEmperor7000**

Probably wont be for a few months. At least 7 weeks. College started last week and we really dont have much free time, and my schedule conflicts with other people.

**Squig_herder**

you could try the list in vassal if it is easier, untill you get some more time on your hands.

**MechaEmperor7000**

I was considering dropping the Wave Serpent for some extra points, taking a Doomseer and maxing out the one footslogging DA squad for some bulk.