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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 19:32:22
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Well I made a profile of probably the most known movie character in excistence
hope you like it and have comments on it  maybe to make him better or less overpowered (if he is...)
Lord Vader 300p
Ws 7 Bs 5 S 4 T 5 W 4 I 7 A 3 Ld 10 Sv 3+*(he has a 3+ invurnable save)
Wargear:
-Vader possesses a mighty lightsaber. This counts as a relic blade and allows no armor saves.
-Vader's special helmet optics give him grand insights combined with his control over the warp. His hits are always 'Twin-Linked' or can be re-rolled in an Assault.
Special rules:
- Grand Psyker : Vader's Leadership test for psychic abilities may be rerolled if wanted. He can use up to two Psychic powers a turn, as he only has shooting powers, he can use ofcourse 2 shooting abilities. Vader has wits even beyond a chapter master's knowledge, he can fire a unit and still assault another.
- Psychic abilites :
- Force Push : Using the flamer template you attack a enemy unit -> the template will emitt from vader's outstretched hand, they will be pushed 6" into the direction of the template and all underneath the template receive a hit resolved on Str5 AP-. If an enemy unit is pushed into difficult tarrain the AP will rise to 3, if they are pushed against impassable tarrain the AP rises to 2, This is an assault 'weapon'
- Saber Throw : Vader is able to throw his lightsaber, he can throw it in a way of being able to whipe units or crash it in an single enemy target, these throws have the following profile:
single target: range 12" Str 10 AP2 assault 1
Unit target: range 12" Str 5 AP 2 assault 6
- Vehicle Crush : Vader can pick up tanks like a little rock with his raw psychic control and crush them to the ground. Any vehicle model will receive 2 Str 9 AP1 hits who are ordanance (you don't use the template! It doesn't scatter.). Skimmers will be able to soften the clap with their technology and their hits are counted as Str 8. The monolith and land raider models are way more heavy and will be affected much less, they receive 1 Str8 AP1 hit which isn't ordanance but assault. These attacks all have a bonus +1 on the vehicle damage chart on top the AP1 bonus. Ordanance or not, vader can always assault after this Psychic attack.
- Force Choke : A model within 6" range gets choked by his enormous warp strength, this ability can be used in an assault phase, but also in the shooting phase. The attacks/shots wound on a 4+ no matter the toughness and have AP2 (power weapon in Assault) (as no armour is going to protect you from choking your neck?!), this counts as assault 3 and or 3 attacks.
- WHAT THE *$รน%! : Vader has a aura which jams nearly any sensors, anything that deepstrikes near vader (within 12"  will throw an additional dice for the scatter and pick the 2 highest if a arrow is rolled, and when a hit is rolled they will still scatter 1 D6, drop pods their systems will not work either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 19:36:34
Subject: Re:Darth Vader Profile
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Go with 300 points, my Lord. No, I dont think its OP, wait!
(Vader Force Chokes)
NO! AGHH, Cough! HACKK! EH! Armour save roll for Imperial officer to pass: 4
I roll:
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/16 19:37:20
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 20:20:36
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Ahaha!!! what the hell is he doing in 40k???
Lol
Btw...
2 things:
-WS 5??? are you kidding? He's VADER !!!!!! WS 9 or 10 please!!!
-Darth Vader can't use the force lightning since he lacks organic limbs... chage the ability to lightsaber trow!!!!
The Emperor protects... and unleash lightnings upon puny gay jedis!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 20:28:05
Subject: Re:Darth Vader Profile
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Poxed Plague Monk
Finland
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Change the toughness to 5, it makes him hundred time more durable due instant kills. And nerf the spells a bit, they seem over the top atm
A great idea!
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CSM 40k : ~4.3k
Skaven : FB ~2,5k
Daemons FB & 40k ~1,7k
Lizardmen 1k
Lotsa chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 20:31:58
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Psychic Novitiate selected by a Gatherer
Here. No...here.
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He should be able to fire exterminatus from the death star.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 20:33:21
Subject: Re:Darth Vader Profile
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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You should make him T5, make his WS 6/7 and make his Lightsabre force the enemy to re-roll any invul saves.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/16 20:33:35
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 20:59:49
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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Yeah a higher weapon skill, and as punkow said change force lightning to lightsaber throw. How about:
Lightsaber throw:
Vader hurls his lightsaber an enemy, it pierces its target then returns to his hand.
Range: 12"
This power may be used on any model, IC or not, even if it is in a unit. If it hits then it counts as if vader had made a close combat attack on that model, except that it automatically hits and is at +1S due to the power of the throw. The target gets no benefits of any abilities or wargear that would enhance its performance in a normal close combat.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/16 21:00:06
"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command yet you still dare oppose our will. "-Farseer Mirehn Biellann
Armies at 'The Stand-still Point':
Cap'n Waaagggh's warband (Fantasy Orcs) 2250pts. Waaagghhh! in full flow... W-D-L=10-3-3
Hive Fleet Leviathan Strand 1500pts. W-D-L=7-1-2 Nom.
Eldar armies of various sizes W-D-L 26-6-3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 21:01:27
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Only things I would change are force push and get rid of the lightning. Force push should crush the target if they are flung near impassible terrain like a second strength 5 hit or something. Make him 300 as he is amazing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 23:13:20
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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OR, he could make force pull, and use the "Lash of Submission" rules for it.
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 23:30:31
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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The Vehicle Crush should just be str10 ap1 on a targetted vehicle. Think like a weirdboyz zzap. You pick a vehicle within X inches. If in range (and test passed) you auto hit it on the armour facing.
Force Lightning shouldn't exist since he never had access to it. Lightsaber throwing sounds better IMHO.
Higher Ws to 7 and T5 like others have said, it's more fitting. You might also want to give him something like Force Jump where he count's as Jump Infantry for a turn with +d6" if he uses the jump-pack rule (move 12" over all terrain but dangerous terrain test if landing on terrain)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 23:58:44
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Lemme guess now other people are going to do stats for others in star wars or something awesome idea BTW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/16 23:59:50
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I'd assume Storm Troopers have a BS of 1/2...
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 03:43:34
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Footsloggin wrote:I'd assume Storm Troopers have a BS of 1/2...
Only against the "Main Characters"
They seem to blast down Rebels fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 06:39:43
Subject: Re:Darth Vader Profile
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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vader did have lightning though, watch episode 3
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"Those that Dare impersonate the dead are judged to join their ranks!"- Alucard
6970 points of Preheresy Night Lords 7681 points Preheresy thousand sons 8230 points Preheresy Iron Warriors 3230 points Preheresy Death Guard 4940 points preheresy Dark Angels 4888 points preheresy Iron Hands 2030 points preheresy Blood Angels 2280 points preheresy space wolfs 1065 points preheresy white scars 3210 points preheresy sons of Horus 1660 points Grey Knights 628 points Sister of Battle 2960 points adeptus mechanicus 18650 points Titanicus legio Nex Caput capitis 5566 points Imperial Guard 5875 points Preheresy Emperor's Children 3735 points Preheresy World Eaters 1710 points Preheresy Word Bearers 2090 points preheresy Imperial Fists 1570 points preheresy Alpha Legion 4600 points necrons 1420 points prehersy Raven Guard 960 points prehersy Salamanders 6334 points Tau Empire 20942 points tyranids 8722 points eldar 3125 points dark eldar 10745 points Bearers of the Light 1415 points Preheresy Luna Wolves 8508 points Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 10:35:59
Subject: Re:Darth Vader Profile
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
Alaska
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There is a problem with the force push on two parts. First if it is n assault weapon you are pushing your target away from you leaving you out of range and vulnerable in your opponents turn, If you are planning on using like the movies. Secondly, the first thing that popped into my head was using it to push units into range for another assault. You didn't clearly state how the template works just that a unit is pushed in the direction of the template, which means he could point it behind him and bring a unit into range of assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 14:41:08
Subject: Re:Darth Vader Profile
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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ader did have lightning though, watch episode 3
No... He didn't....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 19:04:08
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Vader didn't have lightning, indeed all true... lightning is getting out of his abilities  I was kinda confused thx to all the star wars games where he is able to use lightning...
Still still WS going up! he should fight better anyway :p
lightsaber throw is a great option as vader seems to like throwing things anyway (emporor and stuff,...)
the force push needs to be editited a bit, maybe vader can only make the force push from his hand which he cleary, as shown on the model (if it ever excist), holds forward  and it is assault as i geuss vader will be able to target another unit than the one he shot at xD he is vader anyway...
thx for all the cool comments which say 'awesome idea'  I kinda was confused no one else ever did this before...
So your comments will be taken in notice  and everyone who feels like willing to try this unit, GO FOR IT! and tell me how it went
Vader could be associated with chaos and 'for the emporor' alike.... kinda prefer him leading clean white marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 19:10:01
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Aurora, CO.
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you guys are really pumping up who is essentially only equivilent to a fledgling librarian. THis is 40K, our best psykers open gates to hell and rip people apart with their bare hands! Vader is not the kind to do that.
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10'000 years ago, Terra was under siege. The Sons of Rogal Dorn stood firm at the gate, never letting an inch slip away so long as we drew breath. We were killed in droves defending the Emperor and his Imperium, and we killed many in turn. We defended the Emperor and his Imperium, and this is what it means to be a Fist
2500 worth - W114/D28/L70
The Baleful Soul - 2000 worth -W21/D5/L4
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 19:17:18
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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still, we can like throw intire ships to the planet surface??
where is your point xD
and hey you know it's just to have fun :p mixing the universes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 21:20:34
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Looks pretty awesome! One thing I'm confused about is why lightsaber throw is str 10 when hitting someone with it is only str 6? Maybe let him roll 2d6 for armor pen. Also the vehicle throw is ott.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/17 21:53:03
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Fixture of Dakka
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RutgerMan wrote:Vader didn't have lightning, indeed all true... lightning is getting out of his abilities  I was kinda confused thx to all the star wars games where he is able to use lightning...
He never pushed a person or picked up a tank either while he was Vader.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 15:17:26
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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He does in Star Wars Empire at War: Forces of Corruption, but in the movies, he does not...
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/18 18:41:43
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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I think the last movies and games clearly state that if we were today to make 'episode 4', all jedi and sith would use way more powerful abilites
For me 'Force Unleashed' and 'Force Unleashed II' are the actual providers of what 'knowing the ways of the force' should be...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/20 13:49:39
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Stormtrooper WS3 BS4 S3 T3 I4 W1 A2 3+ armor save
Special
They're scary...
Movement phase - they become slow and purposeful if within 12" of an enemy independent character
Shooting phase - shooting at an independent character must be with BS1, and their gun must use the following profile:
S1 AP- Heavy1
Assualt phase - if assualting an imdependent character, the squad's stats are all reduced to 1. In addition, they always fail morale and are always sweeping advanced
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/20 15:50:57
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Eheh!!! Stormtroopers can have a 3+ armour save only if we give all Ewoks a AP 1 bow....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/20 21:08:40
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Ewoks
Use Gretchin profile except against the sith empire, then use the following profile:
Counts as 1 HQ and 2 Troops - 1,000 pts
WS10 BS10 S10 T10 I10 W10 A10 2++, may reroll until you pass
May take supa ninja crossbow - S(D) AP1 Assualt oo (infinite)
May shoot at a different place each shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/23 21:10:02
Subject: Darth Vader Profile
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Death-Dealing Devastator
Scottsdale, Arizona
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make the lightsaber throw r6" s10 ap1
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DR:90-SG+++MB--I++Pw40k07+D++A+++/CWD-R++T(T)DM+
2500pt :
3-1-1 0-0-2 2-1-2
0-3-0 1-1-0 0-2-0
1-0-0 0-1-0 0-1-0
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