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I don't normally go for a harsh army but as this is for money everyones going to be going for tough lists. I was wondering what you guys think of this list and what changes you'd make.

HQ
Fateweaver

Bloodthirster
Blessing of the Blood God

Elites
5 Bloodcrushers
Fury of Khorne
Chaos Icon
Instrument Of Chaos

4 Flamers of Tzeench

Troops
2 X 8 Plague Bearers

2 X 8 Pink Horrors
Bolt of Tzeench

The first wave would have Both Greater Daemons, the Bloodcrushers and 1 of the Pink Horrors squads.

The aim would be to get the first wave down and keeping them close to Fateweaver for the reroll of saves and try to keep out of line of site of anywhere that going to get a lot of shots off at Fateweaver.

Shoot a couple of bolts of change and some daemonic gaze at what's in range and try and charge with everything in the second turn.

The Flamers will deep strike within range of the Bloodcrushers to get in a good spot to burn things without the risk of scatter.

The plague bearers are really to hold objectives further away from the enemy line and will be less vulnerable if they come down in the 2nd wave as there's less chance for the enemy to shoot them.

The 2nd squad of pink horrors will go for an easy target when they arrive or go for an objective if it looks doable.

I'm thinking that with all the hard stuff coming in at once that will make the enemy have decide what to go after.

So that's the plan anyway if it goes with the 2nd wave first then things will be a pain but I’d have to play more conservatively with everything.

Don't have any Slannesh daemons as I don't like them but I own everything else.

I'd appreciate any input you guys have?

I did fairly well in the doubles version with a similar list alongside a Scout and LS Typhoon heavy Blood Angels player.

Won best painted too :O
We called it team Dan Brown as in Angels and daemons

Here's a pic of my guys ignore the silly Blood Angels

2x Huge point daemons, They will deepstrike and sit there. They will have every single target trying to shoot them down before they do any thing. So if you wanna risk the points, You wanna make sure you can get them close and in VERY good cover

Plus also as its a Tournament is there any list requirements, like 1hq 2troops, then 1 fast 1 heavy 1 elite before you can unlock more of the same thing?

No it's standard Force Org charts so that's ok.

Fateweavers not very big but you're right it does worry me.


One advantage is that the house rule says that you can't see through trees. Only into and out of.

I ment point wise, You have like 550 points worth of HQ

I personaly think your putting to much preasure on your Hq's to do the mass killing :|


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333 points is a hell of a lot, You could have a full group of Fiends or like 20 bloodletters

Lol sorry.

They are very hard to kill and 2nd turn they'll be in combat. If they survive :s

The Bloodcrushers will be there too everyone will want to shoot them as well.



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I could do bloodletters but so far everytime i use them they under perfom :(

Hmm. upto you mate.

I think 3 W's on some thing worth 333 points is kinda HC :|

when its gonna be your enimy's number 1-2 prio

How about this. I drop 1 Squad of Pink Horrors and 1 Flamer and take the Blessing of the Blood off the thirster and then put in a Soul Grinder with Phlem and Tongue?

That way I have have a unit of Bloodcrushers, A bloodthirster Fateweaver AND a Soul grinder, all of those are scary turning up on the doorstep. (If all goes well)

Uh, 3 wounds is generally more than enough, Fateweaver is tough as nails, he has a 3++ Re-rollable, very hard to crack unless you throw everything at him. Sure, he's the only thing in the book with LD9, but 6,7,8 are the most likely rolls on a 2d6 LD test. Meaning that he will not run away a large majority of the time...

Hey obsidianaura,

Nice list allready, but since youre looking for more serious Im going to give some pointers. Your HQ section is perfect, no need to change anything. Youre somewhat overdoing it in Elites and troops (numbers per squad). This makes those choices hoard up too many points not leaving room for Heavy's and Fast. I'd take this in stead:

HQ
333 Fateweaver
255 Bloodthirster, Blessing of the Blood God

Elites
200 4 Bloodcrushers, Fury of Khorne, Chaos Icon, Instrument Of Chaos
105 3 Flamers of Tzeench

Troops
75 5 Plague Bearers
75 5 Plague Bearers
100 5 Horrors, Bolt of Tzeentch, Changeling
95 5 Pink Horrors, Bolt of Tzeench

Fast
120 8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne

Heavy
140 Daemon Prince, Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch

1498

Giving you two additional threats in the Prince and the Hounds. Prince has great synergy with Fateweaver and adds additional AT firepower and the Hounds can target trooptransports and tie-up units until the Crushers arrive.

Let us know how the tournament went...

Cilithan

Hi FootS and Cilithan thanks for the input.

I thought that fateweaver would help nicely with the other guys getting rerolls. He's actually not too bad in combat and is less vunerable most of the time so I'm thinking with the crushers and the thirster near him he should be a little safer.

I'm intruged by your Fleshhound suggestion Cilithan I've always thought they were over priced considering they have no power weapon and only one wound with only a 5++? Are you finding them good?

You dont think i should put a Soul Grinder in?

Fateweaver is the no-brainer-build for Daemons. I use him almost exclusively. He's a beast. Even if he dies, he wil then have diverted so much of the opponents attention that the rest of your army will have a good chance to succeed on it's own.

Flesh Hounds are good. They offer speed and a good chance to bust transports. They can be used when facing anoying Null-zone lists to offer a turn of cover to the rest of your army and can be used to tie-up units like Long Fangs, Imp Guard Weapon Teams and Hive Guard to buy the rest of your list some time. Because of this I value their toughness 4 and think they are more suited then Seekers in the Fast Attack slots. The fact that they don't have powerweapons isn't that bad considering the role I want them to fullfill. Also, against Orks for instance you don't want Powerweapons, but you do want a good number of S5 attack on the charge.

Soul Grinders are good in lists with a lot of Khorne-stuff to compensate for lack of shooting. However in a list with Fateweaver they are suboptimal since they don't benefit from the rerolled saves. Take Princes instead when taking Fateweaver...

Cilithan

Yeah maybe you're right.

I suppose a Soul Grinder can benfit if it stands behind the Greater Daemons or suitable cover so it can re-roll a cover save. But that's not so useful.

Still S10 maybe helpfull against mech lists?