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Space Marine Ed 5 Codex

This is my Arch Angels Space Marine Army (Custom)

This is my list to play against many different armys. Mainly Imp G, Nids, Orks
I am new to playing only played one time. Not a tourny player, just like playing friends and at local Hobbie shop.

My army is 1500 pt Dreadnought Based so I wanted 3 in the army. I love the Dreads! This is the only thing that is perm the rest can be changed.
Adjustments to the dreads is Ok though.

What do you think? I would love some suggestions and tips.

150 pts HQ - Chapter Master/Artificer Armor/Combi Melta (x1)
115 pts HQ - Honour Gaurd Sqd (x5 this is supposed to be x3)My mistake
40 pts Tran - Razorback w/ H Bolter

170 pts Troop - Tac Sqd/ Missile L/Flame (x10)
170 pts Troop - Tac Sqd/ Missile L/Flame (x10)

116 pts Troop - Tac Sqd/ Combi-Melta (x6)
75 pts Tran - Razorback w/TL Las

115 pts Elite Dreadnought Assault Cann/Arm + Bolter
115 pts Elite Dreadnought Assault Cann/Arm + Bolter

135 pts Elite Ironclad Dread (stock) 1 arm/bolter & S Hammer/melta
35 pts Tran - DropPod

130 pts Heavy Pred w/ TL Las & H bolter Spon
130 pts Heavy Pred w/ TL Las & H bolter Spon

Total Points 1496 pts w/4 points to spare

What do you think of this force as a Dread Based Avg 1500 pt Army?

Get a master of the forge for your HQ, makes you able to take 6 dreads. If you go w/ that idea, you can take 3 heavy support dreads and give them TL AC on each arm, that's a lot of AC. You should put your other 2 dreads in a drop pod also, replace all the storm bolters for heavy flamers. Assault cannons are good, but I'd go w/ a plasma cannon just for personal preference or keep the multi-melta to kill vehicles. I'd give your chapter master a PF or TH. You should put melta bombs on your tact squad, and give them a rhino.

Thanks for the tip.

I made a master of the forge and have 4 Dreads. I love the things. I was thinking the same thing with the rifileman dread. I would like to drop pod more dreads but the points of the 3 drop pods is over 100 pts and in 1500 points I am trying to get more troops for the battle. To keep cost down I thought I would send the Iron Clad in the heart of the danger and send the other two w/ assault cannons with the tac squads to support them. The reason I went with Assault Cannons was due to anti troops however your Plasma cannon idea give me the best of both worlds, anti armor, troop and increased range to really support the tac squads. I like it. Plasma cannons are needed ASAP, lol. I will need to order them soon and put the magnets in. The same goes with the tac squads having rhinos, I wanted them to be Razors so I can shoot with them with more fire power. I know my army gives up speed and saftey for my tac squad but I feel that the other dangers of my army will keep the enemy busy.

thanks for the great tips, You really got me thinking.

You need to drop in more than one dread or it will be a bullet magnet. Even with armour 13 it can be easily killed if close enough to their heavies. You need at least 2 targets to tempt them into splitting fire ...

I'd just go w/ 5 drop pods hahahaha 3 in on turn 1! That would be a fun army to play.

The setup on the Preds is the worst possible setup, never take the TL Lascannon.

Honor guard is also a terribad choice (you are only paying for 3 HGs btw). Take a Captain instead of the CM if you dont want to take a Libby (which is better9 times out of 10) or a MotF if you really wanna go heavy on the dreads.

All tacticals needs rides. But you will be fine with just two squads.

The Chapter Master is a bit crap, take a normal Captain, though you want Dreadnoughts Master of the Forge is the way forward.

Tactical Squads need transports, prob best with straight lascannon on the Razorbacks as to use las/plas you have to stay still.

One Drop Pod = bad as the unit inside will coem down unsupported.

Predators should be either autocannon and heavy bolters, or, autocannon and lascannons.

Good point on the Honor G's. I didn't pay attention to the number. 115 is kinda much for 3 figures.

Do You think a Chapter Master w/ Orbital Bomb is better than a Libby?
I think I will probably get a libby.

My adjustment will be to add a rhino for one tac squad. I will rework the HQ and look at changing the preds.

My plan for the Iron clad is for force support. I will land him within the vacintiy of another friendly force but close enough to the enemy to start doing some harm. I won't send him in for a complete suicide mission however the situation at hand could change that.


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Here is my adjusted List. What do you guys think now? Thanks for the tips so far.

140 pts HQ - Librarian w/Term Armor + Storm Shield

170 pts Troop - Tac Sqd/ Missile L/Flame (x10)
35 pts Tran - Rhino

170 pts Troop - Tac Sqd/ Missile L/Flame (x10)
35 pts Tran - Rhino

116 pts Troop - Tac Sqd/ Combi-Melta (x6)
40 pts Tran - Razorback w/TL Heavy Bolter

115 pts Elite Dreadnought Plasma Cann/Arm + Bolter
115 pts Elite Dreadnought Plasma Cann/Arm + Bolter
135 pts Elite Ironclad Dread (stock) 1 arm/bolter & S Hammer/melta
35 pts Tran - Drop Pod

130 pts Heavy Pred w/ Auto Cannon & TL Las Can Spon + storm bolt
130 pts Heavy Pred w/ Auto Cannon & TL Las Can Spon + storm bolt
130 pts Heavy Pred w/ Auto Cannon & TL Las Can Spon + storm bolt

Total Points 1496 pts w/4 points to spare

Librarian is loads better than a Chapter Master as the C.M just gets the big bomb, the Librarian can benefit the army or units making things more killy.

The last Tactical Squad, is it 5 man?

Dreadnoughts with plasma are expensive but make a good fire base, a lot of people rate the double twin-linked autocannon setup.

You don't need storm bolter on the Predator. It's a anti tank platform.

The last Tac army is 6 strong. Do you think it would be wise to swap out two preds for one Landraider???

By the way thanks for the tips. The extra points saved on using on landraider instead of 2 preds will help me buy flamers for the dreads.

No because the Land Raider isn't doing anything the Predators aren't and gives less fire and is only being partially used; it's other purpose a transport.

No problem. Any more help just PM or e-mail me