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what would be a good suit build for my Tau commander? I was thinking cyclic ion blaster Rng-18" Str-3 AP-4 Assault 5...and the Airbursting Fragmentation Launcher Rng-G18'' Str-4 AP-5 Assault 1-No cover save-Large Blast marker with a MultiTracker-And stimulant Injector-And Iridium Armor. what do you guys think?

FYI there is no more guess range weapons due to the way blast templates are used now.

That would cover alot of bodies, but I have a few worries about its set up as current. Firstly your range is 18 inches, thats awefully close. The threat range of Orks can be 18 inches on foot, same with hormaguants as they have fleet.


I wish I could give better advice, but my son lost my Tau codex a good 6 months ago so Id be lying if I said I was anything but rusty on their codex

KingCracker wrote:FYI there is no more guess range weapons due to the way blast templates are used now.

That would cover alot of bodies, but I have a few worries about its set up as current. Firstly your range is 18 inches, thats awefully close. The threat range of Orks can be 18 inches on foot, same with hormaguants as they have fleet.


I wish I could give better advice, but my son lost my Tau codex a good 6 months ago so Id be lying if I said I was anything but rusty on their codex

yeah...i understand...but wouldn't the iridium armor and stimulant injector protect me for alot of the hits i would be taking?

No, boss with powerklaw and your toast.

Against horde, take 3 railheads and drop pie plates.

As they get closer, drop a suicide suit unit with twin-linked flamers in front of them, to slow them down. Flank-charge them with kroot, remove their furious charge bonuses and just eat away at them. Once they get through your shields, double tap with firewarriors and hope for the best.

agnosto wrote:No, boss with powerklaw and your toast.

Against horde, take 3 railheads and drop pie plates.

As they get closer, drop a suicide suit unit with twin-linked flamers in front of them, to slow them down. Flank-charge them with kroot, remove their furious charge bonuses and just eat away at them. Once they get through your shields, double tap with firewarriors and hope for the best.

I do not think you understood my post very well...I wanted to know what a good single anti-horde suit build is...not an entire BatRep

50+20+15+5+20+10=120 points. Thats kind of expensive for a Tau HQ. Especially considering how close he will be. And Agnosto is right. A single hit from a powerklaw will kill your 120 pt HQ (hits on a 3+, Wounds on 2+, no armor save [power weapon], no FNP [power weapon], instant death [>2x T]). I don't like those chances. I would maybe replace the CIB with a Plasma rifle. That way, you can snipe from 24", or move shoot move, to drop a pie plate. I would go with a shield generator instead of Iridium. Yes its a 4+vs2+, but the 4+ is invulnerable, and doesn't slow your jetpack move.

PraetorDave wrote:50+20+15+5+20+10=120 points. Thats kind of expensive for a Tau HQ. Especially considering how close he will be. And Agnosto is right. A single hit from a powerklaw will kill your 120 pt HQ (hits on a 3+, Wounds on 2+, no armor save [power weapon], no FNP [power weapon], instant death [>2x T]). I don't like those chances. I would maybe replace the CIB with a Plasma rifle. That way, you can snipe from 24", or move shoot move, to drop a pie plate. I would go with a shield generator instead of Iridium. Yes its a 4+vs2+, but the 4+ is invulnerable, and doesn't slow your jetpack move.

Alright...thanks. is the Airbursting fragmentation launcher any good?

Don't waste points on Iridium Armor, it's too much for what you recieve. Stimulant Injectors are okay, not great.

Here's what would be a good anti-horde:

Shas'o
Burst Cannon + Flamer
Hard wired drone controller w/ 2 gun drones
Shield generator

Cheap, ablative wounds with the drones (which fire decent weapons that are twin-linked & pinning), can still fly around in the assault phase (which iridium armor hinders), has a good save against everything and saves unique gear for other suits.

From the Crisis Suit Loadout article:

"I advocate running Burst Cannons on cheap Crisis Suits, and running them twin-linked. This gives you a decent chance of hitting without Markerlight support, makes them more efficient on a points per hit basis, and keeps the overall cost of the suit down. These are definitely not a must-take item, but are a better option for a third Crisis Suit squad than, say, Stealthsuits. I'm running my unit of three with Flamers for the third hardpoint, which brings a squad of three to a very affordable 123 points. "

I've been running this for a little while now, and they've been surprisingly effective.

The best suit set-up I have seen lately: twin linked missile pods and flamer.

Cheap as chips, a twin linked st7 ap 4 2 shot gun on each suit for JSJ and a flamer for crowd control.

That is a great all around unit that hoses light mech and hordes.

4TheGraeterGood wrote:

KingCracker wrote:FYI there is no more guess range weapons due to the way blast templates are used now.

That would cover alot of bodies, but I have a few worries about its set up as current. Firstly your range is 18 inches, thats awefully close. The threat range of Orks can be 18 inches on foot, same with hormaguants as they have fleet.


I wish I could give better advice, but my son lost my Tau codex a good 6 months ago so Id be lying if I said I was anything but rusty on their codex

yeah...i understand...but wouldn't the iridium armor and stimulant injector protect me for alot of the hits i would be taking?

Yea those will make you last longer sure, but lets look at a mob of 30 boyz for example. Say you do insanely well in your shooting and kill of half. So 15 slugga boyz assault they will throw out 60 attacks on your battlesuit. So whats your WS4? So half hit, 30 hits, str4 to your T4 again? Half wound, so now youve got to save 15 times......good luck.



I just wish I could contribute more to the topic lol

The point isn't to be able to soak up all the hits they can throw at you. The point is to not be there for them to throw the hits in the first place.

Flamer and Burst cannon combos are a must against hordes (though if you take a Shas'o the flamer is a waste of his BS), out of the special issue weapons the Cyclic Ion Blaster weapon is better in my experience against hordes as when it comes to fighting hordes the more shots you can pump out the better. The ignores cover of the FMP dosen't really do you any good because if you're playing a horde army he isn't going to be keeping his guys in cover he's going to be charging them into your units as quickly as he can, they're both the same range and the AP dosen't matter anyway because most units in a Horde army aren't going to have better then a 5+ save (orks and gaunts have a 6+ if I remember right) and anything that has a better save then that should be targeted by your stronger guns.

Thank you all fo your help I really appreciate it.