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Awesome work and effort on this Just Dave, will have to print out the rules and do a few test games for you asap.

Query with the Heretics option, which is a lovely idea btw, did you consider adding a Heretic Tank, Leman Russ probably with some kind of balancing disadvantage like a Looted Vehicle? To me that will allow even more of a hint of Traitor Guard marching alongside the CSM.

My other query was, any particular reason you went for Icons on the CSM squads over Marks. I know when the CSM book has been discussed before, Icons/Marks has often come up, and it is still the only thing that does my head in.

I'd rather pay more for a mark, than have a guy who takes the bonus if he dies and I know I wasn't the only one the last time we had one of those long CSM fail threads.

Yeah, the only issue with the icons/Marks is the fact for the Daemons they are a key thing.

It's a tough one, I do wonder if there would be a way to still make Icons something a unit could take for summoning, and still be worth taking as well.
Maybe do the break ties in CC like Daemons have? I'll consider possibilities, and if anything comes to mind I'll raise it.
Although I do admit it is mainly a personal grumble, I can play the CSM with the rule anyway.

Regardless will have a go playtesting the list, and cheers for the note on the DCM thread, will print one out.

Rendlesham airbase, or what used to be it. Now just plain old Rendlesham, east of Ipswich.

It's what the location 'joke' thing is in my sidebar, the most renowned British UFO sighting happened here years ago.
What, a UFO sighting near what at the time was a fully active US airbase, I'm stunned.


As to the marks, yeah that might work, sorta what the cult troops do now.

The 'Daemon' thing is because I had a wierd feeling 40K daemons had the same advantage that musicians have in fantasy. Although it might just be my brain being scrambled with too many rulesets.


edit - oh and meant to say, have been working on a Heretics squad, once done I'll share a pic.

Took a few days longer to sort than I'd hoped, but here's my first Heretic unit. Hope you're a fan just Dave, going try them out on the tabletop soon.

Ah yeah, three knife blades strapped to the gun so he can leave a favoured mark in his victims.