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Oh no, this again!

To summarize....
Q: If a transport vehicle is destroyed in the same turn as it
moved flat out what happens to any embarked models? (p70)
A: They are removed as casualties.

Q: If a skimmer is immobilised in its own Movement phase
whilst moving flat out is it still destroyed? (p71)
A: Yes.

Q: What is meant when the term ʻturnʼ is used? (p9)
A: Whenever the word turn is used it means player turn.
Otherwise it will clearly state game turn. In a complete
game turn both players get a player turn. Hence one game
turn will comprise two player turns.

MY QUESTION:

The above rulings are in addition to Page 71, SHOOTING AT SKIMMERS, 2nd Paragraph "...so a skimmer that is immobilised immediately crashes and is destroyed (wrecked) if it moved flat out in its last turn." (italics mine) So, an opponent CAN shoot at a skimmer, wreck it with an immobilise result, AND kill the passengers? (The recent discussion seemed to be focused only on the skimmer's own turn.)

Yes, I used the search feature.

- Phanatik

No, you only lose all passengers if it dies in fiery wreck on it's own turn, usually by moving flat-out then failing a dangerous terrain test. If you move fast to get the 4+ cover save during the opponent's turn but are subsequently wrecked anyway, the passengers simply disembark as normal.

Destroyed-wrecked is merely a pinning test

Phanatik - no, you follow the normal rules, which are disemabrk on a Wreck! result and placement (with S4 / S3 hits on the whole unit) on an explodes!

The *reason* you die if your vehicle gets destroyed on YOUR turn is because you *cannot* disembark, even by emergency disembark, the PLAYER turn you move flat out!. THAT is what the FAQ is telling you, despite it being already clearly in the rules.

IIRC you only take a pinning test on a destroyed-explodes! result. a destroyed-wrecked only results in a mass exodus from the metal box (aka disembarking all units within the transport)

Tetris, that's not correct. Wrecked and Explodes both cause Pinning checks. But Wrecked doesn't cause S4 (S3 for open-topped) hits on the unit like Explodes does.

Wow I have been playing wrong for a while, then! As have my buddies...i will definitely double check that rule before my next game so i remember it properly!

Mannahnin wrote:Tetris, that's not correct. Wrecked and Explodes both cause Pinning checks. But Wrecked doesn't cause S4 (S3 for open-topped) hits on the unit like Explodes does.

Can you please referance a page number? I cant seam to find where it is at.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
(page 61, 67 BRB)

I'd suggest the "EFFECTS OF DAMAGE RESULTS ON PASSENGERS" section on page 67..................

Destroyed – wrecked
The passengers must immediately disembark and then take a Pinning test.

Destroyed – explodes!
The surviving passengers are placed where the vehicle used to be and then take a Pinning test.