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New Zealand

Hey guys, for a while I've been dabbling a bit in WHFB lore and models. And I love the Warriors of Chaos, they're just so badass. One thing that I don't like about them though, would have to be the Marauders, and I was wondering if it'd be viable to take a full Warrior army with none of them?

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Wraith





Raleigh, North Carolina

Things like this are probably better placed in the Tactics section, but oh well.

Yes, a WoC army without Marauders is perfectly viable. While the Khornate Flail/GW Marauder is probably one of the best units-per-point in the game right now, that does not mean that the Warriors are slouches by any means. That's one nice thing about WoC is the various themes you can come up with and all of them are perfectly viable. Heck, look at RiTides and a few others that don't even have standard infantry in their armies.

 
   
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40kenthus






Chicago, IL

When 8th ed started, I thought 50 Marauders with GW were the bomb. They have the same offensive potential as 15 warriors (and cost about the same). However, all of my playing has indicated that 15 warriors will last longer than 50 Marauders. I have not done the math, but T4 and a 4+ save seem to be more than 3 times better than T3 and no save. With that thought - I've dropped the Marauder hoards from my list.

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Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

I'm curious about this, too. I faced Wehrkind's WoC yesterday (which are beautiful, btw!) and he had 3 marauder units, and one of warriors. The warrior one nearly turned the game back for him, whereas the marauders weren't hardy enough to handle my monstrous infantry...

They definitely are good and have a great place in many WoC lists, but are by no means required, imho.

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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

I infact run a full Warriors army (when Im not running the Troll army of coarse) and it does quite well... I find that having a Tzeentch hand weapon/shield warrior unit as an anvil with 2 Khorne AHW units as the dead killy units works quite well when magic defense is thrown into the mix.

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ExarchCain wrote:Hey guys, for a while I've been dabbling a bit in WHFB lore and models. And I love the Warriors of Chaos, they're just so badass. One thing that I don't like about them though, would have to be the Marauders, and I was wondering if it'd be viable to take a full Warrior army with none of them?


WoC are ridiculously good.

For 2 points more than I get Black orcs you're getting better WS, better I, 1 extra attack and better armour. Not counting the shrines and marks you might take as well.


   
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Fixture of Dakka






Lancaster PA

RiTides is right, my marauders went down like a prom date. I did not really have them tooled out (eschewing marks even) and most of the day my dice were cranky, but still I was a bit disappointed. Part of my error was using them as the center of the battle line instead of flanking the warriors.

That said, I am a little leery of going full warriors as adding another 18 warriors would be more than 60 marauders. Plus side, you can focus those points into a single enemy more efficiently than you can with marauders, but down side is that they get killed a lot faster when things stop caring about armor as much.

Still, it looks viable, particularly if you have something on the flanks to stall/redirect things.


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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Yeah, I must admit in running an all warrior army you have severe lack of models (though still not as few models as the Troll Army!) and really can end up hurting you.

I think if you have a Hellcannon in the list it should help you intimidate the enemy (as if facing all warriors was intimidating enough!) and along with the appropriate magic defence, you can really be dead killy with an all warriors army.

Im actually running a full warriors army for a GT Style tourny this upcomming friday, so we shall see how that goes!
   
 
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