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For a change of pace from my wolfstar/razorspam wolves, I've gone back to my daemons, been trying out some lists, writing up many more. Here's one:

The Masque 100

6 Fiends, Unholy Might 190

6 Fiends, Unholy Might 190

6 Fiends, Unholy Might 190

12 Bloodletters, Icon 217

12 Bloodletters, Icon 217

7 Bloodletters 112

7 Bloodletters 112

7 Bloodletters 112

10 Flesh Hounds 150

10 Flesh Hounds 150

= 1740

10pts left over, nowhere smart to stick it.

The army has 5 speedy cavalry units for mech, and 45 bloodletters for the meat inside. Oh, and the masque for pavane-lol-value. Who knows, if I roll well I might even move something of an obj or something

Mech shouldnt be too hard, what with dropping down close and being eble to smash vehicles with every unit, what scares me is armies that can outfight me on the ground, which, granted, are few and far between, but unless I can get the charge on a deathstar with many units at once, they can roll through my army with ease. Land raiders could potentially be a problem, but I'll try to eat everything else with my letters/dogs and let the fiends try to kill the raiders. 1 shouldnt be too problematic, 2 will be difficult to stop, but still manageable, any more and I'm in trouble, but anyone who runs 3+ land raiders at a tourney is gonna get stomped by, well, pretty much any army with melta/str10 (which most tourney armies should have.)

Genestealer lists are a problem too, not much I can do but charge with a couple of units at once and hope I dont fold. Tried that today with a different version of this list (less letters, less hounds, some screamers), after a brutal battle ended up getting wiped, 2 units mishapped and died, most of my army was intact on t3, then suddenly everything just folded and died. Oh well, having a rematch tomorrow. I'll put up a batrep then.

C&C appreciated.

Completely different from what I usually play, but it looks serious.

My first thought is that you have rather fragile units, but then you do make up for that in numbers. Mech should be OK, but AV 14 and Dreadnoughts could be very worrysome. Ah well, thats a risk you could take...

Oh and CD arent crappy at all, there are devastating builds to make with the Daemons codex, but then I think you know that allready ;-)

The last 10 points? Meh, Fury on one of the Hounds or something like that.

Looking forward to the BatRep.

Cilithan

Oh yeah, forgot to put that up. Dreads are a HUGE problem, best I can really do is tie them up with the fiends and HnR away (on the other hand, the fiends arent getting shot then, which is good).

Thanks for the reply =)

I've been experimenting with bloodletters as troops instead of the ubiquitous 5 man PB squads that everyone runs, which never do anything. I've found that as long as you have enough letters, you can get over the fact that they are pretty fragile.

What kind of lists have you been playing? I'm trying to decide on a final list for a tournament I'm probably taking daemons to next month.

Maybe a Tzeentch Prince or two to help with armor. If your afraid of Dreads, Tzeentch Princes can put some hurt on them.

Or Nurgle Princes with Wings, for LRs...

Them or Soul Grinders, though those are annoyingly expensive, and you can get 3 Princes a little more than the price of 1 and 1/3rd Soul Grinders (money wise).

Your call, but they will definately help draw fire away from your Bloodletters and Fiends. When a DP hits the board, it's usually: "Holy crap KILL IT!!! Mode engaged".

Is there a reason you don't go 5/5/10 on the corndogs?

I always bust on somnicide for taking the masque... I always like a tzeentch chariot better... but its not a big deal...

Good speedy list, with good respect for enemy mech.

Demons rock-keep on rocking.Not the usual competitive list,but fiends are very strong

yeah nice list. Fiends are definitely solid. I like khorne dogs too but the lack of grenades kills me (often literally)

Like shep said, a shooty tzeentch herald is cheap and effective.

Play some games, let us know how it goes :-)

I'd prefer tzeralds in multiples, for 100pts I think the masque brings enough utility to justify her cost, sure, she usually only gets to pavane once then dies, so I'll stick her in the second wave and hope she comes down t3-4

Good idea on the dogs, I'll split them to 7-7-6 most likely.

Jabbdo wrote:What kind of lists have you been playing? I'm trying to decide on a final list for a tournament I'm probably taking daemons to next month.

I have been playing no-brainer Fateweaver lists mostly. At the moment my 1750 point list looks like this:

333 Kairos Fateweaver
165 Great Unclean One, Cloud of Flies

200 4 Bloodcrushers of Khorne, Chaos Icon, Fury of Khorne, Instrument of Chaos
190 6 Fiends of Slaanesh, Unholy Might

100 5 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Changeling
75 5 Plaguebearers of Nurgle
75 5 Plaguebearers of Nurgle

135 9 Flesh Hounds of Khorne

160 Daemon Prince, Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Gaze
160 Daemon Prince, Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Gaze
155 Daemon Prince, Mark of Slaanesh, Iron Hide, Pavane, Aura of Acquiescence

1748

Of course Daemons is a chancy army to play, but when this list works it's really horrible...

Your list looks like a pleasant break from the standard Fateweaver set-up, so Im actually quite interested how you'd do with yours.

Cilithan

Played 2 games today, both against something like this:

2x HQ tervigons, cluster spines

1x troop tervigon, cluster spines

10x termangansta,

3x 2 hive guard

3x 17 stealers, w/ toxin

First game was KP, pitched battle, on a 48"x48" board ( due to lack of tables available at the FLGS). Yay. Opponent sticks the genes into 3 central terrain pieces, rest deploys normally, gaunts in front, hiveg and tervs behind.


I get the wrong wave, so dogs, masque, 1 12man letter unit and a unit of fiends come in. With a tiny spot to DS into (basically my own deployment zone), miraculously nothing mishaps! 2 dog units on my left, letters central, masque between letters and dogs, fiends and 1dog unit on right. I pavane some stealers around, nothing major happens.

His t1 no shooting is in range, he charges a unit of genes into 2 dog units on the left and the masque. Dogs fold and die (kill some genes, around 3-4), masque survives (!) and HnR's off to hide behind the letters.

t2. some letters come in and a unit of fiends, I pavane the other genes back. I charge the gene squad that ate the dogs with a letter unit and some more dogs, fiends fail charge. I eat all but 1 gene over 2 rounds of combat when the last of the letters/dogs die, and the single gene consolidates off 6" and escapes. Wonderful. Fiends die to another gene unit.

Basically my units came in too peacemeal and were shot/meleed to death. I couldnt get off charges with multiples units on the genes, so they just murdered me. Game ends on t5 with most of my stuff dead and having killed around 25 genes, some HG and the termagants.

Game 2 was base obj, spearhead on a 72"x48" board. He infiltrates his genes onto my obj, another 2 units in the middle of the board.

I get the right wave (! finally) 4 letters come down and 2 fiends. I eat the gene squad on my obj, it kills one of my letter squads. Another gene squad charges, kills off 2 letters squads. I pavane it and charge the end of the line of stealers with a fiend squads and some dogs so that most cant strike, kill most of them (1-2 left against 5 dogs). HnR off with the fiends to kill some HG.

One unit of genes go off to the other end of the board to eat some dogs/fiends I dropped there, they kill them and spend most of the game running back. I DS some fiends, dogs, and a big unit of letters central, no genes nearby, and eat a couple of units of termagans (he'd pooped out like 6-7 units).

We run out of time, shops closing, on t5 I run the letters back onto my obj, most of his HG are dead, so we agree on a draw. I might have been able to get to his obj with the dogs/fiends I still had alive, but then again he could have shot my letters/contested my obj, so I think a draw was fine.

Goddamn I hate stealers!!!!

But yeah, I'm liking this list, I'll have to test it out against mech opponents and some deathstar lists to see how it fares, but its looking good at the moment.

Horror's are really good for killing genestealers especially when you pavane the stealers out of cover.

I'm really unimpressed with flesh hounds, they rarely do much of anything when I use them. I think the best I've gotten out of a large 14 man unit is two dead land speeder's and 3 dead marines in one game.

For your 310pts (if you drop the hounds).

For 85pts a piece khorne heralds on chariots are awesome for the price. They have almost the same stats as the daemon princes but are way cheaper.

3 tzeentch heralds, this will give you some anti-tank range, and killing off small remnant squads.

Yeah, I've been cosidering 4 kheralds on chariots and 3 naked princes as a sort of mini monster mash. Throw them at your opponent, they might even do something. At least they'll draw fire (hopefully)