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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 20:38:31
Subject: What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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What makes a 2k eldar army good? as i want my army to be shooty and get into close combat and to have some reliable leaders and anti-tank
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 22:50:44
Subject: What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Frankly, this sort of open question is hard to answer and annoys people a fair bit. There should be some measure of learning about an army by yourself (you could try reading some of the Eldar army lists on this site and reading people's comments) instead of asking people to lay all the answers out on a plate for you.
Fire dragons are some of the best anti-tank in the game, take 5-6 in a wave serpent. I take 2 such units in a wave serpent at 2k points.
Eldar have a hard time with close combat. Aside from avatar/wraithlords, a unit of warlocks is probably the best combat unit. On jetbikes would be better than in a transport - any eldar unit has a hard time assaulting out of a wave serpent, which isn't really designed for that.
Leaders, I take a cheap farseer (mainly for runes of warding) and a jetbike autarch. Generally a farseer is a good idea and an autarch depends on your army, whether you commonly go into reserves. Yriel and Eldrad are both rated very good. Even at 2000 points I wouldn't take them both together.
If you want to shoot, you will probably take 3 HS choices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/28 00:08:14
Subject: Re:What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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So you want your Eldar army to be shooty. Easy.
Close combat? Ehhh. . you could try, but you would be better off dedicating one or two good choices to that role and using them the way they were intended instead of trying to build your army around it.
Eldrad and an Avatar are my favorite HQ choices at 2k. The Avatar is just about one of the best cost-to-value MCs in the game in my opinion, at least coming from a Chaos SM player. Beats out a Daemon Prince any day. Stack Fortune on top of that? Priceless. 3+/4+ rerollable.
For the rest you sort of have to decide whether your guys will be walking across the board (footdar) or riding (mechanized), and provide Wave Serpents as desired. Usually everyone I see playing Eldar takes at least 1 squad of Dire Avengers as general purpose infantry, and 1 squad of Fire Dragons in a serpent as dedicated anti-armor. Sometimes two squads of each in a 2k list. What you add to that is pretty much up to your playstyle or the design of a given list.
Fire Prisms are mobile, hale and hearty but can whiff sometimes - Wraithlords are solid but can be countered with Lascannons or Poison, for example - War Walkers are shooty but flimsy - the list goes on. I generally like taking a squad of either Warp Spiders or Howling Banshees, depending on what sort of armies I expect to be brushing up against more than others on a given day. Banshees are great against marines if you use them right and despite the fact that a Serpent is no assault vehicle, if used right you can get these girls into a juicy assault by turn 2. Against power armor you can't really beat 30 initiative 10 PW attacks. Throw in Doom on the target - golden.
But at any rate. . above post is right. Narrow up your focus and try to find some questions a little more specific then "what is good", otherwise you'll get people telling you that Vanilla Ice is good. Don't listen. It is a lie. So is the cake.
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"You only assume the Balefire is coming out of his mouth, Bob. In my world, the Heldrake is pooping daemonic fire on your troops as it jets away from their mangled and now burning corpses." -John
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/28 00:25:11
Subject: Re:What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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More focussed than being perfect in ranged combat AND close combat and good against troops AND vehicles, plus with perfect characters? Difficult to narrow this down any further
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/28 16:59:26
Subject: What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Sorry if i am annoying anyone i just wanted someones opinion
And thanks you guys for replying
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/28 23:56:31
Subject: What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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No army is good in every aspect, not even Space Marines. There will always be some drawback (most of the time it's cost, but with Eldar it's specialization). Rather than trying to cover every single possible route, concentrate on one aspect you like (say, shooting) and run with it. In such a case, they probably wont even make it to your gun line, as you'll have shot them to death long before then.
Also, I concur with Boneblade that the Avatar is one of the best cost-to-value MC in the game. I play Tyranids (the army with the most MCs) and we'd kill for a MC as cheap and useful as the Avatar (Invul Save, Melta Gun, WS10, high initiative, and Immunity to fire-based weapons? And all for LESS than a Carnifex? Oh yes). It's fantastic at popping tanks, and decently useful in all other close combat aspects. It's durability (T6, multiple wounds, 3+ armor save and 4+ invul save, not to mention fire-immunity so no sneak attacks with melta guns) also means that it will make it to the enemy before they shoot it down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/29 21:15:17
Subject: What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Its abit tricky trying to choose which aspect I like because I really like the warpspiders for the speed and firepower and the fire dragons for the anti tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 20:49:20
Subject: Re:What makes a 2k eldar army good?
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Drone without a Controller
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I good idea to take out vehciles is to have a falcon and equip it with brightlances, as they take all armour above 12 as a 12, so therefore you only need a roll of 4 to score a hit with a brightlance!
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Over and Out!
RobGoblin
2000pt Eldar W:4 D:1 L:3
2000pt Ork W:5 D:2 L:3
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